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Old 04-08-2020, 04:29 AM   #671 (permalink)
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The thread has gone very quiet. I hope everyone is Okay.

web.archive.org//medium.com: Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.

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There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with. Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.
I saw elsewhere if you're intubated, your odds are 3%
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The past 48 hours or so have seen a huge revelation: COVID-19 causes prolonged and progressive hypoxia (starving your body of oxygen) by binding to the heme groups in hemoglobin in your red blood cells. People are simply desaturating (losing o2 in their blood), and that’s what eventually leads to organ failures that kill them, not any form of ARDS or pneumonia. All the damage to the lungs you see in CT scans are from the release of oxidative iron from the hemes, this overwhelms the natural defenses against pulmonary oxidative stress and causes that nice, always-bilateral ground glass opacity in the lungs. Patients returning for re-hospitalization days or weeks after recovery suffering from apparent delayed post-hypoxic leukoencephalopathy strengthen the notion COVID-19 patients are suffering from hypoxia despite no signs of respiratory ‘tire out’ or fatigue.
The closest analog is CO poisoning.
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The story with Hydroxychloroquine

All that hilariously misguided and counterproductive criticism the media piled on chloroquine (purely for political reasons) as a viable treatment will now go down as the biggest Fake News blunder to rule them all. The media actively engaged their activism to fight ‘bad orange man’ at the cost of thousands of lives. Shame on them.
In countries where everyone is on Hydroxychloroquine for malaria, COVID-19 is thin on the ground.

From other sources, S-protein and E-protein that form the shell and coronas are suspicious in origin.
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Old 04-08-2020, 04:37 AM   #672 (permalink)
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So what are the odds they conspired to sing hymns together?
Conspired? It could just be a matter of coincidence?

I personally know nobody who believes in conspiracies.
As far as I know conspiracy theories are not a real thing; it is just a wretched plan by the media and politicians who want to make you believe they do exist
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T'was a joke. To conspire is to breath together. Synchronized, with gusto.

Some assert the term was invented (or at least weaponized) by the CIA to prevent disbelief in the government.
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French sociologist Bruno Latour suggests that the widespread popularity of conspiracy theories in mass culture may be due, in part, to the pervasive presence of Marxist-inspired critical theory and similar ideas in academia since the 1970s.
Robert Anton Wilson (Cosmic Trigger, The Illuminatus Trilogy) played conspiracy theory like a fiddle. Highly entertaining since it can't shouldn't be taken seriously. Lionel Nation says he's not a conspiracy theorist, he's a conspiracy analyst.

The biggest theory (after JFK) was the two-planes/three buildings yarn that the government spun.
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I prefer my coincidence theory, however unlikely that the congregation forms spontaneously.
Hardly a flash mob anyway?
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A group of 4 of us gathered remotely in a Google Hangout last night to socialize. One an economist (works in recycling industry), one with a finance degree (beer forecasting), one an aircraft engineer, and me in IT.

The economist was optimistic that we'll quickly recover from Covid-19 economically. He thinks the stock market hit the bottom and we'll climb back out from here on.

The finance guy thinks the stock market is taking a dead-cat bounce, and that we haven't seen the bottom yet.

The aircraft engineer had a very bad internet connection, so the only thing we learned was that he found $500 in Robinhood that he had forgotten about.

I spoke one on one with my good friend who is generally brilliant at all things related to philosophy, behavior, and to a much lesser extent, finance and economics. He used to work at Boeing in the 80s as a hydraulic engineer. Anyhow, he believes the worst is yet to come, and the markets have underestimated this. I tend to believe this.

Once we're released to go about normal living, we'll see a 2nd wave of infection and businesses that can't survive another round of quarantine. Job losses will be permanent, with recovery being slow.

... a google image search shows these face masks with a valve. It eliminates the main reason to wear one, which is to prevent infecting other people, by including a bypass valve so your breath (sneeze) just exits without filtration.


...then this design appears to be superior since it protects all 3 points of entry for an infection:
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Is this a great country or what?
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I've been the beneficiary of plenty of "old" beer. This friend is in the process of purchasing a house 1 mile away. My beer forecast is looking even brighter.
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So it would be 'near beer'?

How's this for a black pill? The commies were allowed or even encouraged to exfiltrate samples from Ft. Detrick, knowing that there was a pallative in a generic pharmaceutical. That would be hardball realpolitik.

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Conspired? It could just be a matter of coincidence?
It didn't occur to me last night, but this.....

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62584.Coincidance
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Coincidance: A Head Test is a 1988 book by Robert Anton Wilson, published in 1988. It consist of series of essays in four parts prefaced by a foreword from the author. It covers familiar Wilson territory such as the writings of James Joyce, Carl Jung, linguistics and coincidence.
The other pertinent word is synchronocity.
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Now that all education has been moved to an online platform, i have been trying to teach my students online. I have re discovered that my voice is bad. I have also concluded that prerecording a lesson and right after the session (of students watching my video) a live session where students can ask questions is optimal. I have also been looking at online courses and material. When youtube recommended the following video.

When the hell did we become so obsessed with BS and nonsense?!?!! The narrator does not have a single sentence that you could remove. No BS, just the facts.

I know this is the right place for the video. So my question is: is the video boring and outdated? And my answer would be «absolutely no! ». And my counter question would be: are you interested in this subject, and do you think that you should be educated in this subject.

My conclusion is, Maybe education should not try to entertain or to self promote and just try to educate.

Here is the video

https://youtu.be/VDiOKqMKTO8
 
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Tell 'em what you're going to tell 'em (0-0:48); tell 'em (0:48-11:20), and then tell 'em what you told them(11:20-13:35). At 1.5x.

13:35 to 16:33 — Dead air (???)

When I separated and returned to civilian life, I sat down and turned on a TV to see what was up. A green(!) frog was teaching little kids using the same technique I'd learnt in the military.

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