Personal question: How old is your computer?

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary

I've been dabbling in getting Linux to work for me and abandon Microsoft as much as possible, but so far it's not working out.

The next time my Apple Mini goes online will be to install Asahi Linux. Meanwhile, I put up with the idiosyncrasy on the world-facing machine -- stuff like the boot order is supposed to be 0xf41 and I can't change it but I don't care. The browser freezes occasionally but I don't care. It isn't Brave. I do care about that.

Does that timeline extend back? Windows 95 bad? Windows 3.1..... Naaah!

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I'll skip to Win12 after support ends.

OEM Windows versions are different licenses and are heavily discounted. As such, they may carry different upgrade eligibility.

The laptop I purchased 2 years ago with Win10 is eligible to be upgraded to Win11. Of course, I wasn't born yesterday.

It's not the OEM key, although it sort of is. The processor (that Microsoft put in their own product) isn't on the list of accepted processors for Windows 11. If I force Windows 11 to install I can almost garantee that it will show up as unactivated. Purchasing a Windows 11 key for an unsupported device also doesn't make sense.

[freebeard]

I'm not going to watch this but I did scan the chapter headlings:

Windows 11 Must Be Stopped - A Veteran PC Repair Shop Owner's Dire Warning - Jody Bruchon

UEFI, Secure Boot, and a Trusted Platform Module, oh my!

[Xist]

Mom finally pretended to use the jumbo iPad, but complained she couldn't log into Chase.

In Safari.

After I repeatedly mentioned she can use the app on this child's plaything.

She doesn't want to use the app, she wants to use Safari (except she doesn't know what Safari is).

"Fine. Just enter your password."
[Indignantly] "I don't know my password!"

I opened the app and handed her the platter.

"I can't do anything!"
Sure enough, it shows her balances and a log out button.

Tapping anything else just makes a sound.

I never understood why apple puts a couple of icons on one screen and a couple on the next.

I never realized that the first page were apple apps and the second page were good ones.

Got to keep them separated.

Whatever.

How do I alphabetize them?

Apple doesn't want you to.

That's it. That is all that I found online.

Apple doesn't want you to.

I tried doing it manually, but every single time that I tried to move an icon, it put them in a folder together, which takes longer to undo than it took to do in the first place.

Apple keeps bugging us to set up apple pay.

That's never going to happen.

Apparently it will never stop asking.

My desktop is incompatible with win11, so I am not randomly upgrading part of the house and going back and forth.

It is not going to stop asking, either.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I'm looking forward to Asahi Linux on the M1 Mini.

I didn't even know it existed. Well, there are some Linux distributions I might never actually even find any reference, yet they're around for a while. There were even some distributions such as Apartheid Linux which would likely put anyone who downloads it in a police watchlist...

[ksa8907]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I'm not going to watch this but I did scan the chapter headlings:

Windows 11 Must Be Stopped - A Veteran PC Repair Shop Owner's Dire Warning - Jody Bruchon

UEFI, Secure Boot, and a Trusted Platform Module, oh my!

I thought you could still install WIN11 without all that crap, but with lower security features?

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by ksa8907

I thought you could still install WIN11 without all that crap, but with lower security features?

You can install Windows 11 on just about anything if you know how. If you just attempt to install it on a computer that doesn't have those features or doesn't have an "acceptable processor" or doesn't have "enough RAM" then it won't install. What you have to do is know how to access Windows Registry durring the install and then add or change some registry keys so it won't check for those things durring the rest of the install. Like I said, I put Windows 11 on a computer from 2006, and that's the way I did it.

If you put Windows 11 on a computer with unsupported hardware then, at least in my experience, it won't register with your activation key and will remind you the hardware isn't supported from time to time. If Windows 10 is anything to go by, that may not be such a bad thing. With Windows 10 you can just keep using your computer without a valid and activated copy of Windows. You get a wallpaper with an "unactivated" water mark, and that's about it, which you can even change if you know how. Windows 11 may work the same way, allowing you to use your computer normally.

But there's always that "what if." "What if" they push an update that makes Windows 11, or some important app or feature stop working? Something else to keep in mind is Windows 11 now requires you to sign in with a Microsoft account. If you don't have and don't want a Microsoft account then only Windows 11 Pro, which costs more, is the only way to access Windows 11 without the account that I know of.

But if you want to play it the way Microsoft is telling us, then:

1. You need a certain newer processer from their list, which makes some computers that are only 2 years old right now not compatible like my Microsoft Surface Go.
2. You need 4GB of RAM. For an example the 2006 computer I have was limited to 3.75GB.
3. You need a TPM module, UEFI and Secureboot, which is only found or possible on newer computers.
4. And you'll need a Microsoft account unless you don't mind purchasing a copy of Windows 11 Pro.

[freebeard]

Installing Windows is just like taking health advice from Bill Gates.

[Xist]

I'm not asking what if, I'm asking why!

Would you prefer health advice from Steve Jobs?

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary

You need a certain newer processer from their list, which makes some computers that are only 2 years old right now not compatible like my Microsoft Surface Go.
You need 4GB of RAM. For an example the 2006 computer I have was limited to 3.75GB.
You need a TPM module, UEFI and Secureboot, which is only found or possible on newer computers.

Meanwhile, one advantage often pointed out when it comes to some Linux distributions is their suitability to "legacy" hardware.