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View Poll Results: Should EcoModder ban/discourage threads about certain mods? (e.g. magnets, HHO)
Yes - let's agree to talk about topics based on understood science/engineering principles. 27 32.14%
No - we'll miss out on important new discoveries. 17 20.24%
No - I am entertained by the musings of pseudo-scientists and conspiracy theorists. 39 46.43%
AHA! You are obviously in the pocket of Big Oil FOR EVEN CONSIDERING THIS!!!! 14 16.67%
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:22 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I'd say no on the grounds that science is not the field but the approach. If someone is into radioactive hoola-hoops or whatever, as long as they conduct actual testing, and do so in a transparent manner, including documenting possible sources of error in a sincere fashion, i'd say all power to them. (Assuming that their hypothesis of how their device works is subject to disproof to begin with)
I voted no because I don't want to miss any good ideas. However, I have noticed some of the sketchy things do not seem to have consistent testing to back them...

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Old 03-13-2011, 11:49 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Old 03-13-2011, 12:58 PM   #53 (permalink)
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So will moderators/admins move the "sketchy" topics to the new subforum.
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:08 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Old 03-13-2011, 05:58 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I think banning them is a bit too strong, but you could make a "Dustbin" category for claims that don't have any basis in sci/eng.

Edit- NVM, you did make a category...
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Old 03-13-2011, 09:00 PM   #56 (permalink)
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So should threads like these:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ors-16406.html

Go as well? Since he is simply asking about them? And not making any claims? Plus he's new. Don't know why everyone is being harsh there.

But, I'd vote yes, it should still go.
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Old 03-13-2011, 09:59 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Problem is some of the stupidest stuff draws the most commentary and clogs things up. I distinctly recall an HHO obsession virtually destroying what was once a decent site. Can't allow the B.S. to take over.
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Old 03-13-2011, 10:19 PM   #58 (permalink)
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The more you type, the more I am convinced you are a scammer. You do realize that the internet (on which this board is hosted) doesn't stop at the 'murrican border, and that it is read in russia and china?

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Posts with an opinion that have a face, two eyes and a nose and mouth and breathing deserve the same consideration as any other post.
NO, posts that are only opinion and have no data or repeatable results are not worth dog snot, they do not get or deserve any serious consideration (excepting for amusement as the poll indicates).

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We are talking about opinions here, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
No, the point is not to talk about "opinions", it is to figure out what works and what doesn't. Opinions are too much like politics.

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If there needs to be a way for posters to show there allegiance then let there be a place next to the post with two places to check.
Again, NO, the owners of the board have expressly asked to refrain from using the "thanks" button as an applause meter when the discussion goes the way someone likes it. It is their board, you are a guest.
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Old 03-13-2011, 11:42 PM   #59 (permalink)
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As you can see from the poll results, banning speech and censorship of ideas (no matter how loony) are an expression and exercise of authoritarianism.

Creating a new sub-forum is a great idea. But labeling it as you suggested is inherently biased.

Why not give it a simply unbiased label such as calling it: radical ideas?

But don't be surprised if as a sub-forum, it becomes very popular...
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Old 03-13-2011, 11:48 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Problem is some of the stupidest stuff draws the most commentary and clogs things up. I distinctly recall an HHO obsession virtually destroying what was once a decent site. Can't allow the B.S. to take over.
If it is limited (i.e. given it's own space or playground) it won't "clog anything up".

Instead of banning playfulness, we can recognize the usefulness and benefit of providing a playground, where "anything goes" - where playfulness and even total nonsense is OK.

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