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View Poll Results: Why don't you keep a garage entry / fuel log?
I'm not sure how to set up a garage entry/fuel log 2 18.18%
I don't track my fuel consumption 2 18.18%
The fuel log doesn't use the units I work with 2 18.18%
It's not important to me; I'm just here to pass time 0 0%
I maintain my data elsewhere - too much work to transfer it here 3 27.27%
I just want to armchair quarterback others' projects! 2 18.18%
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Old 06-15-2009, 03:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You do have a point. Old epa is 18/25, 21 combined for this van.

Average is 21 mpg. Highway trips are usually 28+, with a highest of 35 mpg.

New epa is a joke.


11-mile commute: 100 mpg - - - Tank: 90.2 mpg / 1191 miles
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Old 06-15-2009, 06:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Sheer laziness on my behalf. Up until recently when someone mentioned i should do one. So i did! Without the tutorial i wouldn't have had a hope. I have no clue how all this internet programming works. So thanks for the tutorial. It's a pity i cant put in litres as the fuel amount. Well, maybe there is a way but i didn't find it.....

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Old 06-15-2009, 07:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't track my fuel consumption
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:18 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I've been slacking lately, and haven't entered my last few tanks in my log... I didn't have internet and fuel receipts at the same time, so I just couldn't manage it really..

I don't place a lot of stock in fuel logs anyway, because the average fuel log still contains way too many variables to be considered concrete information. I keep it for my personal use, but if someone else wants to view them, and take hints from my information, so be it.

I don't judge people by actions I can't confirm... If your information/opinions are normally correct/useful, you gain my respect. I don't think that a person's lack of perogative to record their mileage or other details necessarily means they shouldn't speak about ways to improve their mileage, etc...

Just because someone else isn't necessarily a light-foot, doesn't mean they can't suggest it to someone else asking how to manage their fuel more effectively, in other words. Not everything in life requires "practice what you preach" mentality.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:33 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm a leech

I picked;
"Armchair Quarterback"
No one else had, so I had to.
I've been carpooling to work for months,
My Metro is apart and time won't let me get her back together,
I share the Avalon with my wife and I seldom know when she fills up.
I CAN NOT get my daughter to give me info on the Jetta.
I kept the log on the Metro till I started carpooling and then my fill ups were few and far between, (really, I believe I have only filled up 3 or 4 times this year) Then I had an oil leak to fix which turned into a pile of doodoo. So I'm rebuilding the whole motor and trying to work three jobs at the same time so the fuel log is not high on the priority list.
Soon I will have my
running again and I will only be working two jobs,
I will be more diligent about maintaining my log.
Please don't ban me,
I feel at home with you guys, as you understand my need for anti-speed.
Life the Universe and Everything else just got in the way.
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:27 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:01 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Ban metroschultz? Not a chance! 3 jobs, and a torn down Metro. There's a full plate.

Christ, good point: a fuel log is only as good as your level of trust in the person who maintains it. I've never suspected anyone of fudging...
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I don't suspect it either, and I don't maintain that anyone isn't doing it. I maintain that if your perogative is to waste your time fudging a fuel log to impress people you don't really know, and probably will never meet, then I guess that's on you (figuratively, not personally). I'll do me, you do you.

I just don't really see the spread of knowledge being a "practice what you preach" scenario. What with all the "fact checking" that goes on around here, those who would normally spread false information are typically silenced quickly by the correct information, accompanied by several sources from which to verify said information, and as such, I don't personally feel that something so subjective should be used as further evidence of someone's honesty/integrity.

IOW - some people really don't care about fuel economy, as it were, but are more interested in spreading/supplying knowledge to those who wish to pursue it. Are they to be ignored for not having kept accurate fuel logs? For not striving to get the most out of every drop of fuel they burn? For aiding others with their pursuit of fuel economy/efficiency, but not practicing the same?

I say nay.

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Old 06-20-2009, 10:26 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Option #7: Because I haven't used any fuel, and I got tired of converting units

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