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[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I'm referring only to the most highly regarded experts and authorities when I reference natural immunity. It's a trap because either

a. highly exalted experts and authorities are infallible, in which case natural immunity is at least as effective as a vaccine or

b. highly exalted experts and authorities are fallible, and reliance on them is foolish. Old politicians with no background in anything useful should be relied upon instead.



I'm always willing to entertain alternative explanations for anything I've stated. Do you propose something else besides ignorance or corruption as motivating factors? Perhaps I didn't consider disease or dementia as an explanation, but I'm not one to leverage medical conditions to expose illogic.



I've already stated that I'm pro-vaccine for the most part, so you're preaching to the choir here. 2/3rd of Americans have received a vaccination, and at least 1/3rd have been exposed to Covid and have natural immunity. We're somewhere around 95% coverage of some sort of immunity, yet the disease persists because that's the evolutionary process of pathogens. It's what's known as endemic.

Early deaths, before the vast majority of the population had immunity could mostly be correlated with unvaccinated individuals. At this point, it's mostly bad luck in that variants have adapted around immunity, and prey especially on the elderly and unhealthy. That brings up my next point that nowhere in the corrupt business of dividing people for the ostensible purpose of "health" have any of these scumbag politicians mentioned things like not being overweight, getting adequate vitamin D, and other things that build up natural defenses not only to Covid, but every disease. They are corruptly myopically focused on 1 and only 1 therapy. There is no other explanation other than corruption/profound ignorance/mental disease to explain this, but I await alternate explanations and hope to be proven wrong.

* It's impossible that they know, or knew all the variability of an individual's response to the virus, or it's offspring. One way or another. It's an unknown quantity. The reason they promoted vaccination, which is highly understood.
* The old politician did exactly what he promised to do, go along with the recommendations of those with the data, and understanding of the data. And he didn't take a COVID remedy at Walter Reed Army Hospital, derived from aborted human fetal tissue, then turn right around and slam right to choose.
* In 1977, 'scumbag' politicians attempted to pass federal nutrition standards, which would have eliminated obesity and type-2 diabetes, before it ever existed, but came under immediate attack from the meat lobby. Not only was the legislation gutted, the Senate Special Committee was dis-banded, under political campaign finance extortion threats to any US Congressmen which might jeopardize corporate sales and profits with which Congressmen are 'purchased.'
' You don't want to hurt the folks who brought you to the dance,' was a quote from one congressman.
* If you want to end government corruption, your going to need a Supreme Court that will take a fresh look at the Due Process clause of the 14th Amendment, and Citizens United. Anything else is just pure folly.
When VELVEETA cheese spread has more of a voice than I do, there's something horribly wrong in America.
*Maybe early deaths had something to do with the POTUS telling citizens that COVID would just go away. Sunshine and bleach.
* We're at war with a virus. The White House is doing exactly what it's mandated to do. It has a solution. And gets nothing but hell for it.
* President Nixon mandated that I have immunizations in basic training, an additional 17- immunizations before going to Vietnam. And more after I got there.
* There was no storming of the Capital, or riots.
* Vaccination kills COVID and all it's mutations. The economy opens back up, just like pre-pandemic.
* Do people think viruses take time off while we argue?
* It's very strange to survive combat, only to see Americans killing each other at home, by default.

[freebeard]

The old politician did exactly what he promised to do, go along with the recommendations of those with the data, and understanding of the data. And he didn't take a COVID remedy at Walter Reed Army Hospital, derived from aborted human fetal tissue, then turn right around and slam right to choose.

Could you unpack that a bit? I can only think of one old politician that [ever] did exactly what he promised to do. IIRC he is a COVID survivor, who was forced by circumstance to fast track the usual test procedures. Was he ever jabbed? Don't only two of the four solutions use AHFT? The ones that permanently alter every chromosome in your body?

Here's this:

Miracle in Japan

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by aerohead

I didn't see anybody trying to put 911 calls from soon-to-be-dead COVID-infected anti-vaxxers on a don't answer list illegal, in contrast to the push towards opening up the economy, endorsed by the right wing.

Either open up the economy, eventually with some moderate cautionary measures which may be relatively affordable even for the smaller moms and pops businesses, or wait until people starve to death before the Chinese virus even touches them.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Could you unpack that a bit? I can only think of one old politician that [ever] did exactly what he promised to do. IIRC he is a COVID survivor, who was forced by circumstance to fast track the usual test procedures. Was he ever jabbed? Don't only two of the four solutions use AHFT? The ones that permanently alter every chromosome in your body?

Here's this:

1) President Biden promised that he would act on the recommendations of the scientific community, with respect to the pandemic. I've never seen any evidence that he's acted contrary to his promise.
2) Former President Trump received a treatment at Walter Reed Army Hospital which was developed from aborted human fetuses.
3) Donald Trump was pro-life and anti-abortion. He might have asked about the origin of the treatment he received before he received it, and declined it on moral and ethical principles, and let the chips fall where they may. Vice President Pence would have been sworn in, in the absence of Donald Trump. His action seemed to belie a bankruptcy of principle.
4) None of the COVID vaccines have anything to do with AHFT. They all rely on the Human Genome Project, allowing the human body to turn off it's own immune response to the presence of the virus. It's not the virus that kills you, it's your own body that kills you ( i.e. prostrate cancer doesn't kill men, but it ultimately makes them unable to drink, and ultimately, death comes from renal failure and blood toxicity as a consequence of dehydration).

[freebeard]

I'll take your word for that. I'm far beyond caring in any case. I had what I think of as Schrodinger's Flu in 2020-01. Of the three tests available, I'd consider a serology test to collapse the state vector, but I hear tales about test sample DNA being monetised in some way. I don't know which of the tests are hijacked but I feel like all of them are used for lying-d*mned-statistics I want no part of.

I did talk to my physician about another matter today, and I told him how medieval dentistry is today. 20 years ago scientists could grow a mouse tooth and implant in a mouse jaw, but they had to implant it in the mouses liver for two weeks and ain't nobody going to have kidney surgery [twice] to gain a tooth.

Today, OTOH, I'm in favor of using CRISPR technology to just grow a whole third set of teeth. The pluripotent stem cells are waiting.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

Either open up the economy, eventually with some moderate cautionary measures which may be relatively affordable even for the smaller moms and pops businesses, or wait until people starve to death before the Chinese virus even touches them.

Without vaccination, and even with cautionary measures, the virus can still be vectored, providing an environment for it to live long enough to mutate into the next variant, ad infinitum.
The arithmetic is real simple. Get vaccinated, end the pandemic, open back up.
The cheapest way out.
No worries about those starving to death. Obviously, human life no longer has any value. People are committing suicide by default, to protect some BS website spreading misinformation, disinformation, and conspiracy theories, who don't give a damn whether I live or die.
The Viet Cong were more respectful to me.

[freebeard]

People are committing suicide by default, to protect some BS website spreading misinformation, disinformation, and conspiracy theories, who don't give a damn whether I live or die.

Name the website. TIA.

I just want to see if you name the right one.

The arithmetic is real simple. Get vaccinated, end the pandemic, open back up.
The cheapest way out.

There exist counterexamples.

Can you propose why Dr. Fauci could have been experimenting with maximising terror in animals if not to increase adrenochrome production? Like a cat with a mouse?

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Without vaccination, and even with cautionary measures, the virus can still be vectored, providing an environment for it to live long enough to mutate into the next variant, ad infinitum.

Remember the first H1N1 outbreak in late-'08/early-'09? There was no vaccine, no lockdowns, yet the virus went quite quickly under control. Some years later, it was included in the coverage of the regular flu vaccine often applied to some "vulnerable" people. I'd rather support a non-mandatory vaccine, with enough time to be proven safe such as the mainstream flu vaccine, instead of the media-induced panic surrounding the Chinese virus right now.

The arithmetic is real simple. Get vaccinated, end the pandemic, open back up.
The cheapest way out.

I'm sure some off-label medicines, which could be taken at home, would be cheaper and less prone to further distress people than telling them to only go to the hospital when they're already nearly dead. A friend who got the Chinese virus took Ivermectin and Azithromycin, while I took only Azithromycin when I had a flu in February 2020 that got my nose stuffy in a much unusual way, even though I didn't develop an actual shortness of breath. A cousin of mine OTOH had it, yet I don't know what medicines she took.

[freebeard]

I know no one who has been harmed by the bio-weapon (lacks sufficient gain of function), but I have a neighbor who asserts someone known to them was struck down by a Vaccine Adverse Reaction.

Mixed news from Dr. John Campbell today: Gibraltar and Europe

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I have a neighbor who asserts someone known to them was struck down by a Vaccine Adverse Reaction

Once in a while I hear someone complaining about adverse reactions from the vaccine. Usually older folks, yet some other friends of a friend of mine who are younger than 40 had been rushed to an ICU due to adverse reactions actually worse than the Chinese flu itself.