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[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

I didn't see anybody trying to make vaccines against the Chinese virus illegal, in contrast to the push toward mandatory vaccination endorsed by the left wing.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

I didn't see anybody trying to make vaccines against the Chinese virus illegal, in contrast to the push toward mandatory vaccination endorsed by the left wing.

I cover both absurd ends of the spectrum. The left is currently winning at worst ideas, but that will simply leave room for the right to take a stab at it in the future. Conservatives tend to make the mistake of holding onto bad or outmoded ideas too long, and liberals generate a plethora of bad ideas.

I'm somewhere in between, constantly saying things could be better on the one hand, but on the other acknowledging things are the way they are for reasons.

[Piotrsko]

I can't understand this vaccination thing, I got armfulls of shots in the AF, NOBODY objected, lived through the polio summers......haven't had a cold for maybe the last 5 years, don't recall the last time I had the flu.

If you don't want the shot, fine. Don't run to the ER expecting to be saved when you get a now semi preventable disease.

Down side: my linux distro stopped working and my left arm gets warm when I get close to operating microwaves and google keeps trying to sell me odd stuff.

[freebeard]

Down side: my linux distro stopped working and my left arm gets warm when I get close to operating microwaves and google keeps trying to sell me odd stuff.

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The objection to the vaccine itself is the lack of five years of testing before approval.

What really flips people out is suggesting a mandate has the force of law.

[Piotrsko]

So untold millions have to die before the 5 year process proves it works without major side effects?

Imho, this is exactly like the unionist /catholic issue in Belfast which I can't fathom either. What if you're a unionist catholic? Which flag do you fly in front of your house?

But thank you for that perspective

[redpoint5]

People think in binary because it simplifies complex issues. I'm pro vaccine and anti-mandate (to put it lightly). The far right would call me a big pharma shill, and the far left would call me "science" denier. Just where I feel most comfortable; aggravating all the idiots.

[freebeard]

So untold millions have to die before the 5 year process proves it works without major side effects?

Thank you for your understanding. I have no idea who to believe, but some sources stress that the vaccination rate and infection rate have a high positive correlation. Others that world-class athletes are dropping dead on the playing field. The search term "died suddenly" has gone asymptotic.

It's the fog of asymmetrical warfare.

IMHO, this is exactly like [the depopulation agenda] in V for Vendetta.

[Piotrsko]

Never watched V.

If I understand redpoint5 correctly, being told to get a vaccine makes it wrong, but voluntarily is Ok?

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

Never watched V.

If I understand redpoint5 correctly, being told to get a vaccine makes it wrong, but voluntarily is Ok?

Even being told is fine, just as long as it's not coercion. Facui can tell me to get a vaccine so long as he and others have no authority to make me get one.

I'm further implying that regulatory groups in medicine unduly restrict patient access to therapies they choose, and artificially prop up the cost of medicine with those restrictions. For instance, by limiting the number of physicians, or by requiring prescriptions.

In Oregon, it's legal for me to shoot up heroin if I want to, but illegal for me to get prescription strength Tylenol without a prescription.

With the internet, and as AI becomes more effective than doctors, the over-regulation of medicine will increasingly be harmful to patient outcomes. I'm certain there will be laws still requiring a doctor (a single individual) to make medical determinations decades after AI (database with every symptom ever reported to compare to) becomes more effective.

M.D. is a sacred position within our culture. If liberals really wanted to disrupt an institution and compel a positive change, medicine is the low hanging fruit. Punching doctors isn't as exciting as punching imagined Nazis though.

[freebeard]

If I understand redpoint5 correctly, being told to get a vaccine makes it wrong, but voluntarily is Ok?

The last time it happened there were gallows involved for the politicians, doctors and journalists. (Nuremberg 1947)