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Old 07-23-2021, 08:38 AM   #831 (permalink)
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Front engine under a Beetle body is always quite out of place.

Sure the original suspension layout of the 2CV is interesting, yet in Argentina later versions made by another company which had bought former assets of CitroŽn Argentina replaced this very same chassis for another one which had a more conventional suspension.
Agreed that the "new Beetle" is an abomination, but I'm curious if the Argentine 2CV suspension would still let a farmer drive across a plowed field with a cargo of eggs.

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Old 07-23-2021, 04:28 PM   #832 (permalink)
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I see this and I'm reminded of current F1 practice, with a passenger safety tub and raised snout to carry the front suspension.


justacarguy.blogspot.com: Jimmy Snyder and Chickie Hirashiwa at Indy, 1937

....just with a front engine.
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Old 07-23-2021, 07:20 PM   #833 (permalink)
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Agreed that the "new Beetle" is an abomination
I was actually refering to engine swaps into the original Beetle


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but I'm curious if the Argentine 2CV suspension would still let a farmer drive across a plowed field with a cargo of eggs.
Only derivatives made by the defunct IES featured that different suspension. All the models made by CitroŽn itself, and their IES equivalents made shortly after the sale of CitroŽn Argentina assets around '79, featured the very same original 2CV suspension. But anyway, don't expect the ones with the Argentina-only IES frame to fare as well driving cross-country.
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Old 07-23-2021, 07:46 PM   #834 (permalink)
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I was actually refering to engine swaps into the original Beetle
I knew that but still agree with Bicycle Bob.

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There is no excuse for a land vehicle to weigh more than its average payload.
My 1961 Type II panel van weighed 1750lb and had 3/4-ton rated axles, so, ...it was close.
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Old 07-25-2021, 03:49 AM   #835 (permalink)
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I knew that but still agree with Bicycle Bob.
Me too. I refuse to consider something a Beetle if it doesn't perform reasonably on unpaved rural pathways.
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For me it's the rear engine and backbone floorpan. My Superbeetle barely clears 3.5" bump strips. Did I de-Beetle it?
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Well, firstly, it IS a superbug, so that could throw the whole initial argument off.
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cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's argument.

I play to it's strengths, if it weren't for the traffic control strips it's be set 1/2 inch lower.
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For me it's the rear engine and backbone floorpan.
Let's not forget the rear engine was still considered a valuable asset to enhance the Beetle's performance on rough terrain, no wonder it was so popular in rural areas of my country until mid-80s, and briefly relaunched locally from '93 to '96 competing against models which were around 40 to 50 years more modern.


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My Superbeetle barely clears 3.5" bump strips. Did I de-Beetle it?
I was refering to stock models
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Not sure if itís really UnAerodynamic or more of a Aerodynamic oddity...

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