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09-24-2015, 12:50 AM
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I have seen a few of these in the wild. What is the Cd of a brick again?
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09-24-2015, 01:08 AM
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A 0.21 Cd SUV might be a stretch limo with a fineness ratio of 2.78:1 or whatever.
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Sure, but I guess you missed the point I was trying to make, which is that the best possible aerodynamics won't compensate for too big a cross section.
As for the tractors &c, what point to aerodynamics when your top speed is maybe 10 mph?
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09-24-2015, 07:59 AM
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How about that one ?
I'd love to see this disaster in a windtunnel.
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Yes it needs a 460ci engine just to go 55 mph.
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09-24-2015, 09:35 AM
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What is the Cd of a brick again?
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I tried looking that up yesterday because the same question popped into my head. I didn't come up with much, but this morning I looked at this page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_coefficient
A brick is not listed, but a cube is, and a long cylinder is.
I'm going to guess somewhere near 1.0 is the Cd of a brick.
EDIT: Found some other stuff, not so sold on some of it's accuracy.
I remember posting information on "Blunt Bodies" in the forum a few years ago, some of them with close proximity to the ground.
EDIT-2: FYI - I think bricks are called square cylinders.
Got that from here:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...17931011004327
And got that from the thread I remembered:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...y-11592-8.html
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http://www.calqlata.com/proddetail.asp?prod=00021
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Long Prism (face): Calculates the shape coefficients of a long rectangular beam with the fluid flowing at right-angles to the axis of the beam against a flat face
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There ya go, just over 1.0 as projected/assumed earlier.
I should note that proximity to the ground is a pretty big factor not to be ignored.
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09-24-2015, 10:01 AM
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MORE random pics...... - Page 3619 - Pelican Parts Technical BBS
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Alerted by the smell of a broken bottle of liquor, Federal Agents inspect a "lumber truck." Los Angeles, 1926
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09-24-2015, 02:35 PM
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As for the tractors &c, what point to aerodynamics when your top speed is maybe 10 mph?
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Three words "art deco toaster"
It appears from the Wikipedia chart that the brick does better in a 45° cross-wind.
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09-28-2015, 02:31 AM
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The SP2 is weird with its square front-end in contrast to its smooth rear end. Have you ever seen one live? I still see some once in a while.
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09-28-2015, 10:45 AM
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The SP2 is weird with its square front-end in contrast to its smooth rear end. Have you ever seen one live? I still see some once in a while.
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I'm not sure if I have, I'm getting old in the head.
I did see a cousin of it in 2011, the Puma.
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...e-27014-3.html
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09-28-2015, 06:06 PM
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Nice and sleek, until the air get trapped in that area behind the cab !
This one doesn't count - it's not street legal :
I've been unsuccessful at finding a picture of a city maintenance truck with their signage up, but I know we have all seen them.
It's a giant flat sign on the bed of the truck that rotates. It has a flashing arrow to alert motorist of construction ahead.
Unfortunately, I see plenty of these trucks driving along with the sign still up, versus folded down.
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