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Old 02-21-2022, 05:46 PM   #31 (permalink)
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You're right about what plants crave. Consider the liquid part.

It's hard for me to keep up with your bang-bang posting frequency. I've found my Achilles' Heel. My left foot is currently is a 5-gallon bucket of cold water.
I'm limiting my driving and visits to EcoModder.com to twice a week due to global climate change and my carbon footprint.
I have 17-hours a week on the computer total, to catch up.
As soon as I get here, it' balls-to-the-wall trying to catch up. I do walk across the street for takeout pizza, which also serves my flesh cravings, as I'm vegan 5-days a week.
Whatever additional rat-killing I can do while in town I do, before heading home.
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Old 02-21-2022, 06:35 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Best lunch in town is the single slice at Coburg Pizza on Olympic (before 3PM, 2nd is Subway). I always have them slice it in twain so I get twice as much.

I'd thought you just walk five blocks. ??

Two followed sources I don't burden you with are Russel Brand and Dr. John Campbell*, but his video today speaks to public perception of 'dread risk' Pandemic ends Thursday


*He's a great person, storied and humble. Not egoistic like that Adams guy.
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liquid Nitrogen carbon footprint

1) One source reports that the carbon footprint for manufacturing and transporting liquid Nitrogen to the end user is 79-grams/ liter. One-kilogram / 12.658-liters.
2) There'd be the carbon to extract the materials for drone manufacturing.
3) Carbon footprint to transport the materials to processors.
4) Ditto for processing into useful materials.
5) Ditto for transporting materials to the drone factory.
6) Ditto for manufacturing.
7) Ditto for distribution to market.
8) Ditto for purchasing.
9) Ditto for transporting drone operators into the forests.
10) Ditto for charging the drones in the field.
11) Ditto for housing the teams.
12) Ditto for feeding the teams.
13)............................................... ......................
14) As Earth continues to warm, the teams would have to move north to follow the beetles.
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Best lunch in town is the single slice at Coburg Pizza on Olympic (before 3PM, 2nd is Subway). I always have them slice it in twain so I get twice as much.

I'd thought you just walk five blocks. ??
Crooked Crust is just catty-corner to Copy-Pro, so I ignore that.
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The pine beetle infestation has to do with global warming.
The forests used to be colder, and they used to be colder for longer.
They don't get cold enough and for long enough, so the millions of larvae laid by Mom survive now, to eat the cambium out of the pines.
The keyboard player for the Rolling Stones did a show where they were harvesting the pine-kill, to widen fire breaks, and turning the deadwood into pellets for pellet stoves, which is technically a net-carbon technology.
It's probably linked to global warming too. But I was with some experts in the Rocky Mountain Biological Laboritory in Keyston that were explaining how healthy trees producs enough sap to push out pine beetles, so are immune to them. Pine beetles only attack weak trees that don't produce enough sap because the sap would kill the pine beetles as it's too sticky for them and drilling into a sap trap of death isn't what they like to do. But the trees here in Colorado have been suffering due to 1, clear cutting and over sowing the soil with trees so they compete too much for water and nutrients and 2, the drought we're been having for the past few decades.

At any rate, it could be a combination of the two factors, not enough cold to kill pine beetles and trees not getting enough water to produce sap, their natural defense against the beetles.
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Here I thought the liquid nitrogen was to eliminate pests.
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And the LN2 is just going to freeze damage whatever it contacts around the grub hole since the tree doesn't get a weather notice about freezing before the application.

Kinda like ingest cyanide to kill your internal parasites. It does kill the parasites, but not the way it was planned
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More of a topicall application.

I was just asking.
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pine tree sap

The 'expert' in Europe made no mention of 'healthy' trees or 'sap' caveats as a mechanism to mitigate the infestation.
The pine trees simply need to be at a sustained, 30- below zero F, for long enough to prevent the beetle larvae from hatching.
As long as the forest environment is too warm, the root problem remains.
That was my takeaway.
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Liquid Nitrogen

My friend Tom Darnell's father, Alfred, had been part of the heavy water program for the Manhattan Project and was a Professor of Physics, at UCLA.
He took us to his campus lab one weekend, and demonstrated liquid nitrogen, by immersing a lead bell into the cryogenic, allowing it to 'ring'.
He also did the frozen rubber balloon trick, shattering it into smithereens.
I can't imagine what a pine tree would react like, experiencing something so alien.
Carbon dioxide will probably go down in history as the most addictive substance ever known to man. Willing to sacrifice the very planet he lives on for just another fix. And willing to do anything but live without it, ultimately falling into the abyss of his own making, taking everyone with him.

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