Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > EcoModding Central
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-13-2016, 01:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Ecky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5,077

ND Miata - '15 Mazda MX-5 Special Package
90 day: 39.72 mpg (US)

Oxygen Blue - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 54.69 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,904
Thanked 2,560 Times in 1,586 Posts
Replacing mirrors with cameras

Although I'm going to also be posting this in my build thread, chances are good it will have a wider appeal than just those looking at what I'm doing to my Insight.

After reading extensively on the variety of cheap Chinese junk available on Amazon, I decided on these cameras:

E-KYLIN Vehicle Car Auto Side View Camera, 360 Degree Angle Adjustable Side Mirror Flush Mount Camera, Mirror Image w/o Grid Lines, 22.5mm Hole Saw - Pack of 2

These LCDs:

5” Inch Digital TFT LCD Color Car Rear View Monitor Screen for Parking Backup Camera ,Support all the car with 12V/24V Power,High Definition 800(RGB)X480 Pixel

And also, a pair of these convex mirrors to go just inside my windows for safety's sake:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Today my cameras arrived, and I hooked one up to an old 24" computer monitor I had in my basement.




The image quality in practice looks better than the still suggests, and you're not going to miss a motorcycle in your blind spot. Low light performance is yet to be determined but they aren't doing half bad in my dark apartment. One nice thing about these cameras is that they seem to sample their exposure from the darkest parts of the image, meaning they don't flare out if you have a bright light pointed at them.

My plan is to install blanks where my existing mirrors are, and use the included hole saw to plant the cameras into them. I'm not 100% certain of the screen locations yet but I'm considering having one to either side of the steering wheel, near my vents. If this proves too distracting at night, I'll figure something else out.


Last edited by Ecky; 12-13-2016 at 01:38 AM..
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 12-13-2016, 02:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Ecky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5,077

ND Miata - '15 Mazda MX-5 Special Package
90 day: 39.72 mpg (US)

Oxygen Blue - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 54.69 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,904
Thanked 2,560 Times in 1,586 Posts
This is a top-down view of my current mounting idea:




I would replace the mirrors with blanks, and give those blanks a protrusion with a flat surface poking out at a ~30° angle to give the camera the ability to see back a little more. I'd probably also want a small sun shield to help with glare.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2016, 07:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: columbia sc usa
Posts: 37
Thanks: 4
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
look in to the 918 hypercar it has a cam set up alot like what you are planing. my give you so good insight as to haw they went about it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2016, 08:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
redneck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: SC Lowcountry
Posts: 1,796

Geo XL1 - '94 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Boat tails and more mods
90 day: 72.22 mpg (US)

Big, Bad & Flat - '01 Dodge Ram 3500 SLT
Team Cummins
90 day: 21.13 mpg (US)
Thanks: 226
Thanked 1,353 Times in 711 Posts
.

Your system is pretty much what I installed.

You can read about it here.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post429990

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post430095

Also State mirror laws.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post430258

They work ok. However, I find it easier to use my mirrors for a quick glimpse when I have to change lanes quickly.

My tiny drivers side mirror is more than adequate.

Thread here.

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ror-23623.html



  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to redneck For This Useful Post:
Ecky (12-13-2016)
Old 12-13-2016, 09:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Ecky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5,077

ND Miata - '15 Mazda MX-5 Special Package
90 day: 39.72 mpg (US)

Oxygen Blue - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 54.69 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,904
Thanked 2,560 Times in 1,586 Posts
I wasn't aware of that older thread, that's very helpful.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2016, 09:52 AM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Ecky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5,077

ND Miata - '15 Mazda MX-5 Special Package
90 day: 39.72 mpg (US)

Oxygen Blue - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 54.69 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,904
Thanked 2,560 Times in 1,586 Posts







Looks like these cameras have around a 130° field of view, and when the camera is angled as much as possible, it's still 30° away from my simulated side of the car, which will need to be compensated for.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Ecky For This Useful Post:
Daox (12-14-2016)
Old 12-14-2016, 10:27 AM   #7 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Ecky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5,077

ND Miata - '15 Mazda MX-5 Special Package
90 day: 39.72 mpg (US)

Oxygen Blue - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 54.69 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,904
Thanked 2,560 Times in 1,586 Posts
I've contracted Daox to design and 3d print the mirror blanks. Here's his current design:






Any feedback would be welcome.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Ecky For This Useful Post:
NeilBlanchard (12-14-2016)
Old 12-14-2016, 11:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,266

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,569 Times in 2,833 Posts
How much power does the system actually use?
For the alt delete folks.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2016, 11:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Ecky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5,077

ND Miata - '15 Mazda MX-5 Special Package
90 day: 39.72 mpg (US)

Oxygen Blue - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 54.69 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,904
Thanked 2,560 Times in 1,586 Posts
The screens are rated for <0.5w standby, <3w on. I have a 12w wall wart that was able to power both cameras and both screens, FWIW. I can get a Kill-a-watt reading if you'd like.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2016, 01:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
NeilBlanchard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth
Posts: 7,907

Mica Blue - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
Team Toyota
90 day: 42.48 mpg (US)

Forest - '15 Nissan Leaf S
Team Nissan
90 day: 156.46 mpg (US)

Number 7 - '15 VW e-Golf SEL
TEAM VW AUDI Group
90 day: 155.81 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,475
Thanked 2,950 Times in 1,844 Posts
I had side video mirrors for about 5 years:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post105631

Neil Blanchard Designs: "eyes forward" Video Mirrors on my xA

If you have video cameras that are 90-110 degree field of view, then you got the right cameras. Having too much field of view makes the view both too distorted, and too small, and it is very hard to see depth. Having 720P or better would be great. And having them work in the dark is also important.

The monitors are also key: you have to prevent their light from reflecting off the windshield, etc. I did this by moving them closer to me; just behind the steering wheel. My

My first monitors had cold cathode ray lights, and they got dimmer and dimmer as they warmed up - in direct sunshine, they were basically unusable. The second set had to be turned on manually each time.

The 3rd set of monitors were great: they were 7" LED back lit, and they powered up when I turned on the car. They were brighter, and worked well in higher temperatures, too.

If you have questions - ask away!

__________________
Sincerely, Neil

http://neilblanchard.blogspot.com/
  Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to NeilBlanchard For This Useful Post:
Ecky (12-14-2016), whatmaycome14 (12-27-2016), Xist (12-16-2016)
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com