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Old 06-21-2014, 11:52 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Honda is the only one without a hybrid SUV.

Not tit for tat, since these are all 2014s vs the Tahoe, but Japan is still doing hybrid SUVs.
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Audi and Porsche (same, really) are joining the trend. 24/30/26 and 20/24/21, respectively. Better than nothing.

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Old 06-22-2014, 02:36 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Look at it this way:

Over the course of 100,000 miles, a Tahoe hybrid at 21mpg (combined) will save 1121 gallons of gasoline versus a conventional Tahoe at 17mpg. A Civic hybrid at 44mpg saves 853 gallons versus a conventional 32mpg Civic

That's a good perspective Vman it unveils the usefulness of hybridizing the full size SUV's.
at $4 at gallon it works out to $4884. dollars in fuel saved in that time.

Over the life time that would add up , 400,000 miles would be $18,000

I am curious how much more expensive the hybrid is over the standard Tahoe..
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I think the real question is should these hybrid parking space exist at all. They do tend to favor people with more disposable income. The same for pay as you go express lanes, but at least they move some of the traffic off the other lanes.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:04 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Just because the sign says hybrid doesn't mean it has to be a good hybrid. Can the sign even be enforced legally?
Yes, via trespassing laws.

(Essentially, if you park in a hybrid space with a non-hybrid, the property owner or their agent can request that you leave their property. If you do not do so, you are now trespassing.)

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Look at it this way:

Over the course of 100,000 miles, a Tahoe hybrid at 21mpg (combined) will save 1121 gallons of gasoline versus a conventional Tahoe at 17mpg. A Civic hybrid at 44mpg saves 853 gallons versus a conventional 32mpg Civic. If a person is going to drive a big SUV anyway, there is a greater impact overall if it's a hybrid than if the person driving a small car switches to a small hybrid.
And this is why distance-per-fuel measurements (mi/gal, km/l) are rather poor, and fuel-per-distance measurements (l/100 km, gal/100 mi) make more sense. Distance-per-fuel magnifies small improvements to an already efficient vehicle, and minimizes large improvements to an inefficient vehicle.
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Honda is the only one without a hybrid SUV.

Not tit for tat, since these are all 2014s vs the Tahoe, but Japan is still doing hybrid SUVs.
I stand partially corrected. It's good to see they've done something for fuel economy on their mid-size trucks. Now it'd be nice if they did the same for their Full-size trucks (I'm talking about gassers too), which lag behind in fuel economy.
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2014 Chevrolet Tahoe 2WD: 15/21 (2015 Tahoe 2WD: 16/23)
2014 Ford Expedition 2WD: 14/20
2014 Nissan Armada 2WD: 13/19
2014 Toyota Sequoia 2WD: 13/17

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2014 Ram 1500 4WD 3.6L V6: 16/23
2014 Chevrolet Silverado 4WD 4.3L V6: 17/22
2014 Ford F150 4WD 3.5L V6: 15/21
2014 Honda Ridgeline 4WD 3.5L V6: 15/21 (this really doesn't count as a full-size pickup, every other truck here far outperforms it. I'm adding it to show how bad Honda has done with their popular minivan-based pickup)
2014 Toyota Tundra 4WD 4.6L V8: 14/18 (Optional V6 not available in 4WD)
2014 Nissan Titan 4WD 5.6L V8: 12/17 (no v6 even available)
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2014 Honda Ridgeline 4WD 3.5L V6: 15/21 (this really doesn't count as a full-size pickup, every other truck here far outperforms it. I'm adding it to show how bad Honda has done with their popular minivan-based pickup)
2014 Toyota Tundra 4WD 4.6L V8: 14/18 (Optional V6 not available in 4WD)
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Only if the majority of it's seats are filled.
Three seats (less than half) filled in a Tahoe is more efficient than 1 seat filled in a Prius.
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Three seats (less than half) filled in a Tahoe is more efficient than 1 seat filled in a Prius.
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... Now it'd be nice if they did the same for their Full-size trucks (I'm talking about gassers too), which lag behind in fuel economy.
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I couldn't agree more. Most of those hybrids don't seem to do too much, but if I had to go one way it would be the Lexus. I couldn't say it's the oldest, but it was the first (and by far most common) of the hybrid SUVs I have seen. Other than Porsche hybrids at NAIAS, I haven't seen any VAG hybrids, the Nissan/Infiniti, and maybe one Toyota. Maybe I just notice the Lexi more because of how good it looks, and the Tahoe because the "Hybrid" badging it everywhere in large print.

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