10-09-2014, 10:25 PM
|
#41 (permalink)
|
EcoModding Apprentice
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 106
Thanks: 0
Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts
|
Moral of the story seems to be, don't mess with the spats... if the manufacturers took the trouble to put them there in the first place, they probably checked for optimum size and orientation in a wind tunnel.
__________________
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
10-10-2014, 01:44 AM
|
#42 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,676
Thanks: 8,140
Thanked 8,921 Times in 7,364 Posts
|
...and then downsized them to allow for knucleheads bouncing off of curbs and driving on flat tires.
|
|
|
10-10-2014, 02:49 AM
|
#43 (permalink)
|
Not Doug
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,240
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,233 Times in 1,723 Posts
|
I honestly do not think that any part of any affordable car is optimized for anything but profit margin, but I do not know how many areas can be improved easily. Aerodynamics? Sure, everybody slacks there. Drivetrain? Well, Honda was seemingly lazy with the Ridgeline, while giving their minivan unnecessary power. Other areas, though?
|
|
|
10-10-2014, 03:05 AM
|
#44 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: United States
Posts: 1,756
Thanks: 104
Thanked 407 Times in 312 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard
...and then downsized them to allow for knucleheads bouncing off of curbs and driving on flat tires.
|
That theory doesn't necessarily work, earlier in the thread someone showed tall SUVs using small spats. There is probably some tricky stuff going on.
Besides, the spats are made of rubber or something like that, so they can be bent around and scraped.
|
|
|
10-10-2014, 03:55 AM
|
#45 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Antwerp (Belgium)
Posts: 272
Thanks: 10
Thanked 64 Times in 51 Posts
|
The unpainted version. It is painted mat black after a few days.
__________________
Drive smart, save fuel, save money, spare the enviroment
But keep having fun!
I can drift
Previous car. SUV. From 2011 + 10l/100km to 2017 5,516l/100km.
2017 without holiday: 5,397l/100km
EPA Rated average: 8,1l/100km
Current ride: plug in 285hp hybrid
EPA Rated average: 2,8l/100km
|
|
|
10-10-2014, 04:52 AM
|
#46 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,676
Thanks: 8,140
Thanked 8,921 Times in 7,364 Posts
|
serialk11r -- That was really a place-holder for a long rant about marketing and focus groups. I yield the point.
I think a proper spat would look something like this, a U-shaped metal bar and a piece of conveyor belt:
|
|
|
10-10-2014, 08:29 AM
|
#47 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,510
Thanks: 325
Thanked 452 Times in 319 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r
That theory doesn't necessarily work, earlier in the thread someone showed tall SUVs using small spats. There is probably some tricky stuff going on.
Besides, the spats are made of rubber or something like that, so they can be bent around and scraped.
|
You can't have large spats on an off road SUV, if they get trapped between the tyre and a rock they'll get ripped off. Same reason you can get removable mud flaps, back over a rock and a mud flap will rip off a fender (I managed to do that once ).
|
|
|
03-17-2015, 02:32 AM
|
#48 (permalink)
|
herp derp Apprentice
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lawrence, KS
Posts: 1,049
Thanks: 43
Thanked 331 Times in 233 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000mc
any ideas whats going on with these spats on a 2014 maserati ghibli?
|
Found more of an answer while reading about the cla180. saying that it works with different wheel dimensions, makes me wonder if it could be blindly applied to other vehicles
Aerodynamics: Sleek as they come | Daimler Global Media Site > Brands & Products > Mercedes-Benz Cars > Mercedes-Benz Passenger Cars > CLA > Coupé
...serrated wheel spoilers on the front and rear wheel arches.
The patented wheel spoiler was developed with the help of airflow analysis. This seemingly innocuous component reduces undesirable air turbulence in the wheel arches in no less than three ways, by lowering linear turbulence, deflecting the airflow from the wheels and stabilising shear waves with its serrated edge. The wheel spoiler remains effective whatever the suspension level and wheel dimensions.
|
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to 2000mc For This Useful Post:
|
|
03-17-2015, 06:45 PM
|
#49 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,303
Thanks: 24,431
Thanked 7,383 Times in 4,781 Posts
|
blindly apply
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000mc
Found more of an answer while reading about the cla180. saying that it works with different wheel dimensions, makes me wonder if it could be blindly applied to other vehicles
Aerodynamics: Sleek as they come | Daimler Global Media Site > Brands & Products > Mercedes-Benz Cars > Mercedes-Benz Passenger Cars > CLA > Coupé
...serrated wheel spoilers on the front and rear wheel arches.
The patented wheel spoiler was developed with the help of airflow analysis. This seemingly innocuous component reduces undesirable air turbulence in the wheel arches in no less than three ways, by lowering linear turbulence, deflecting the airflow from the wheels and stabilising shear waves with its serrated edge. The wheel spoiler remains effective whatever the suspension level and wheel dimensions.
|
Since the taco fairing (GoroTamai) shields both the wheel and wheel-flop real estate,then as long as wheels/tires are the same at the outside,the taco fairing will continue to do the same job of deflecting air for the tire face,and the wheel-flop void around the front suspension.
It's a contextual remark which respects the context in which it is stated.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
|
|
|
03-17-2015, 06:55 PM
|
#50 (permalink)
|
herp derp Apprentice
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lawrence, KS
Posts: 1,049
Thanks: 43
Thanked 331 Times in 233 Posts
|
Every time! ... All I need is hours in a wind tunnel to figure out how to optimize some small part for a chance to see an extra .02mpg
|
|
|
|