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Old 07-09-2011, 07:57 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Every mid 90's Ford Exploder came with these tires from the factory, tireblast indeed.
I looked through the rest of the thread twice, once to read the posts to see what was said, and another specifically looking to see if anyone asked for clarification on your post.

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Old 07-09-2011, 08:12 AM   #22 (permalink)
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tires blew up....big lawsuit
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oh, I know what he meant, I was curious if anybody wasn't sure of what he meant. I know all about the BS/FS tire fiasco
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oh, I know what he meant, I was curious if anybody wasn't sure of what he meant. I know all about the BS/FS tire fiasco
I found it kind of funny that TheEnemy and UFO posted info about the Ideal Gas Law when I reference that as well as Dalton's law in the earlier link! I am hoping they were doing that for others who don't know about Boyle and Charles, etc.
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I tried testing nitrogen tire claims back in 2007 since I have access to nitrogen for filling paint ball tanks. A quick trip to ebay and northern tool and a week later I had all the parts assembled to turn a paint ball tank into a fairly dangerous tire filler.
After a month of adding T&P tire data to fuel economy followed by another 5 weeks of nitrogen tire data.
The claims:
Improves fuel economy
Increases tire life
Less loss of tire pressure helps prevent uneven tire wear
Reduces wheel corrosion
Tires run cooler adding tire life

My results:
"Improves fuel economy" No difference what so ever.
"Increases tire life" no way to duplicate in aloted time. But I do nitrogen fill my trailer tires and keep them covered to try and ward off dry rot.
"Less loss of tire pressure helps prevent uneven tire wear" Tire pressure varration was the same as with air. Tire leak down with the same as with air as far as I could tell in a standard 32psi tire.
"Reduces wheel corrosion" The wheels on my car were 22 years old at the time and there was no corrosion on the inside. Air works fine.
"Tires run cooler adding tire life" Seemed to run just as hot as air as tested with my inferred temperature scanner.

When I return to newmexico I may try filling tires with Helium.
Not expecting a MPG improvemnent but Helium transfers heat at something like 6 time the rate of air or nitrogen. It might help them run cooler.
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*confused* If the gas doesn't matter, why do NASCAR and aircraft use nitrogen?

I saw a unicorn once. Maybe that's why I'm confused...
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Air craft use nitrogen because its dry and they cant have water vapor freezing inside the tire when its -40'F and for fire safty.
Same thing with nascar, but fire safty only.
Years ago they used air.

On a side note, I read that Lexus rolled cars to the dealerships with tires filled with argon. Reason for doing this?
To further dampen road noise. (it seems to work in between window glass panes)
I may test this one out, get my girlfriends Iphone and one of those free sound meter apps and do a before and after test. All I have to do is devise a way to get the argon from my welding bottle to the tire.
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I found it kind of funny that TheEnemy and UFO posted info about the Ideal Gas Law when I reference that as well as Dalton's law in the earlier link! I am hoping they were doing that for others who don't know about Boyle and Charles, etc.
I did it because I figured many would be too lazy to follow an read your link.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:59 AM   #29 (permalink)
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........Same thing with NASCAR, but fire safety only.......
Sorry, but race cars use to for the "dry air" properties. Pressure build up is a little more consistent, so handling is more consistent.
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Old 01-17-2012, 09:00 PM   #30 (permalink)
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All I have to do is devise a way to get the argon from my welding bottle to the tire.
Our nitrogen fill "station" at work is just a bottle of nitrogen (exact same bottle that argon comes in). The only difference is that the flow valve is turned down quite a bit and at the end of the hose there is a tire chuck instead of a threaded nut to screw on to a welder.

Any new car that comes into the dealership that I work at is supposed to get Nitrogen fill for the pre delivery inspection. Do you know what this entails? Remove all four valve stems until the air stops pissing out. Refill with nitrogen and replace valve stem. Add the super cool green cap and BAM! You've just added $100 dollars to the cars value (meaning $100 dollars more in the dealer's pocket).

As has been mentioned, nitrogen's use in airplanes and race cars is for the expansion due to water vapor and to prevent tire fires, that is all.

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