06-13-2013, 02:53 PM
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Including e.g. sleep? I also must admit that I simply can't understand why people would use computers to play music.
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He did say (in the same post you quoted):
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Originally Posted by Xist
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When I am not using my computer, I put it to sleep, or if it will be a while, in hibernate mode.
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I don't see the problem... a computer that is in sleep mode uses very little; a hibernated computer uses nothing. It's not "OFF" but in hibernate, it's using the same amount of power as "OFF".
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06-14-2013, 08:25 AM
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Not to mention that the total energy consumption of turning computers off/on repeatedly vs. leaving them on (and sleeping or hibernating) is not at all as cut and dried as one might think. Computers are busy little buggers when they're booting.
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06-14-2013, 02:03 PM
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Bacon strips and bacon strips and bacon strips and bacon strips and bacon strips
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For the record, I named my car hoping to bring bacon afficionados to the site. It cannot hurt, right? 
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Everything is better with bacon!! Have a sandwich, throw some bacon on it, have thanksgiving turkey, throw some bacon on it, eat some ice-cream, throw some bacon on it. OK, I haven't done the ice-cream, but you get the idea...
P.S. "Epic meal time" loves bacon 
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06-14-2013, 03:12 PM
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Computers are busy little buggers when they're booting.
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Not all that busy, for all that long - at least if you use Linux and have bothered to optimize the boot at all.
You also may have other stuff that's not the computer sucking power as long as it's on. In my case, there's a router and cable modem. By the "warm to the touch" test, the modem seems to draw about as much power as the idle notebook.
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06-14-2013, 03:36 PM
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When I was in Afghanistan (not the best time for my brain), I thought that since beef jerky was low-fat, bacon jerky would be perfect!
I found a few places that sold it and after one humorous negative review of the first place I bought from the second, but it was not just bacon jerky, they were flavored, and it turned out that the jerky was actually covered in the flavoring. I felt overwhelmed.
They had different packages and I went for the sampler that excluded "muddy pigs" or something--chocolate-covered bacon.
I imagine that people have put bacon in ice cream, just like I once put cheese on a pancake.
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Back in Germany, I was always frustrated that the chow hall cooked green beans with bacon. I was eating vegetables for a reason!
Then there was the vegetarian Soldier that I knew...
Eventually I realized that lean bacon is called "ham" unless you are Canadian.
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06-14-2013, 05:33 PM
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Not all that busy, for all that long - at least if you use Linux and have bothered to optimize the boot at all.
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A "default" install of Win7 will boot faster than "default" installation of Linux and run faster from then on given 4GB (in 32bit mode). Even with "additional" load such as anti-virus and malware protection.
You can get improved results with messing about with "swapiness" in Linux to make it work better once booted. Google it for instructions on how to tweak this (irony  )
If your Win 7 machine is slow to start click on the start menu, type "msconfig" in the search box and select msconfig.exe from the menu. Click on the "startup" tab and work through stuff that is running when you start your PC.
Same also applies to XP too.
Windows 8 - are you mad ?
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06-15-2013, 12:35 AM
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People turn off computers? 
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I'm glad you said it! I was thinking it, but was afraid of:
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And you're asking this on an ecomodding site? Why on Earth wouldn't you turn off your computer (or anything else) when you're not using it?
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I often have too many webpages and other research projects open to turn off my laptop. I should probably figure out a good way to save the webpages in a "special" bookmarks folder or something, that way when I turn the laptop back on, I can go through the bookmarks as necessary and delete them when I'm done. I also like to use the power from my class as that is solar.
I like how this thread went *at least for a moment* from Victoria's Secret to bacon. 
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06-15-2013, 04:31 AM
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Google ads vs ecomodders; spam, spam, spam, spam, bacon and spam...? 
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06-17-2013, 02:09 AM
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I was going to email this question to my brothers, but they feel no obligation to Reply so I'll put it here. It was apparent in the early days of Internet that the FBI wanted a back door for corruption. In the last week, the plots and counter-plots in SigInt have spilled over into the popular press. Some companies, Yahoo and Twitter for example, resist more but they are all compromised.
I'm looking at two search engines—Duckduckgo and Startpage. Their 'About' pages are here:
https://duckduckgo.com/about
https://us2.startpage.com/eng/what-m...e-special.html
While Startpage states
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Startpage is brought to you by Ixquick, the world's most private search engine. Ixquick has been third-party certified by EuroPriSe, a European Union privacy initiative.
On July 14th, 2008 Ixquick was awarded the first European Privacy Seal.
Ixquick is the first and only EU-approved search engine.
Find the official EuroPriSe press release here.
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—they do use the Google API
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
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DuckDuckGo is an Internet search engine that uses information from crowdsourced websites such as Wikipedia to obtain its results. The search engine policy says that it protects privacy, and does not record user information.[2] Because users are not profiled, the "filter bubble" can be avoided, with all users being shown the same search results for a given search term.
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Using Metadata to Find Paul Revere
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So, does anyone know of a search engine better than these? Or have a preference between them?
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06-23-2013, 02:53 AM
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I think with noscript+cookie manager+adblock (or similar) is a good combo. You still have a unique combo for an advertiser to use, but the infrastructure to track the fraction of a percent of users that selectively allow scripts/ads/cookies isn't worth it for advertisers.
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A "default" install of Win7 will boot faster than "default" installation of Linux and run faster from then on given 4GB (in 32bit mode). Even with "additional" load such as anti-virus and malware protection.
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I don't think that's likely as a general rule. I have a i5 at work running 7 and it takes as long as my atom based netbook running archlinux.
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