We need ultra light four wheeled cars

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

I think 1/2 msrp is stretching it for any of the big 3 's pickups brand new. 20% off sure, 25% maybe, but no way 50%.

My dad did it in the 80’s
and it definitely happened on the 2008 F-series until early 2009

Dealers couldn’t give the 2008 Ford trucks away

[sendler]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

My dad did it in the 80’s
and it definitely happened on the 2008 F-series until early 2009

Dealers couldn’t give the 2008 Ford trucks away

World economic crash caused severe deflation. Ford stock went to $2. All US automakers needed a bail out.

[Piotrsko]

Ford stock went to $0.42 a share. I bought some.

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by sendler

World economic crash caused severe deflation. Ford stock went to $2. All US automakers needed a bail out.

Also no one would buy gas hogs with $4+ gas

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

My dad did it in the 80’s
and it definitely happened on the 2008 F-series until early 2009

Dealers couldn’t give the 2008 Ford trucks away

In the 80s nobody even knew what the real prices were. Dealers would slap a ridiculous sticker on the window of their own making and then when they were 50% the customer thought they were really getting it done. In reality the dealers and makers were making money hand over first those years. Then when the companies like KBB or NADA started publishing that info for anyone to see they all switched to big manufacturers rebates either direct to customers or hidden to dealers. All of that stuff has been pared back big in today's world. Getting 20% off the official MSRP is about as good as it gets.

[redpoint5]

I look forward to flat pricing, where the necessary profit is built into the price, and is non-negotiable. That way the whole song and dance with the ignorant salespeople can be avoided.

No more "let me talk to the important guy in the glass office".

[Joggernot]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

Every brand new Chevy I have picked up for nearly half MSRP

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Now I’m looking at either a $2500 PIP or a $9999 BMW I3 Rex to replace the Cobalt as a second car, it’s not new but the BMW was a $60,000 car, sadly I can’t justify the inevitable BMW priced repairs.

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If I was interested in a truck I bet I could get a new one half price again but none of those models much interest me.

I don't know what you mean by PIP. The automotive dictionary says "profile ignition pickup", but you're not interested in a truck.

[redpoint5]

Plug In Prius

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by Hersbird

In the 80s nobody even knew what the real prices were. Dealers would slap a ridiculous sticker on the window of their own making and then when they were 50% the customer thought they were really getting it done..

Our credit union always had a black book my dad would reference before buying something
Needless to say they wouldn’t loan you more than the thing was worth.
Anyway he paid $3500 tax title license for a leftover 5.7 fully loaded diesel pickup back in 1981, would have to dig but most pickups even back then were more than $5000 even with a 3 on the tree.

4 years later they have him a free goodwrench motor and he disposed of it in 1990 for $2500

[Xist]

I contacted USAA about selling my Forester and received this: