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View Poll Results: Why do you drive an auto?
I drive a manual 84 54.90%
I have driven both, and prefer auto 19 12.42%
I have only driven automatics 3 1.96%
I couldn't get the car I wanted with a manual because of buying used 27 17.65%
I couldn't get the car I wanted with a manual because they aren't made (excl hybrid) 16 10.46%
I couldn't get the car I wanted with a manual because it's a hybrid 4 2.61%
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:24 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I've only owned 4 ATs, but a dozen MTs. My wife has to drive an AT because of physical limitations. I prefer MTs for better mpg, better power, better control.

Some of the comments in this thread are wrong, IMO. Driving San Francisco's hills, I'd never do a hill start w/o the emergency brake. Sure, I could w/o slipping, but why burn your clutch disks?

Two other questionable comments were claims of AT longevity and MT lack of it. It's not difficult at all to have a clutch last well over 100,000 miles. When the AT in my Chevy Astro died at 130k miles, the transmission repair shop said I was lucky, as most owners with that transmission had them fail near the 100k mark.

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Old 12-08-2010, 05:31 AM   #42 (permalink)
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It is also conceivable to make clutches easier to change, i.e. more like brake pads, a-la motorcycle basket clutch. Some of the newer dual clutch transmissions might have a simpler clutch change procedure, dunno, probably not, not a big deal to drop the transmission every 130k.
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Old 12-09-2010, 11:16 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I'd rather replace a clutch every 80,000 (for instance) than rebuild an AT. It is much quicker, easier, and there is less chance of internal contamination.
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Learned to do hill starts in a 66 Catalina with a 3 on the tree. Talk about roll back.
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That 66 catalina must have been 220 -40 inchs long!!! was it the 4 door?
can't imagine it came w/ a stick!!
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I'd rather replace a clutch every 80,000 (for instance) than rebuild an AT. It is much quicker, easier, and there is less chance of internal contamination.
I have 224,000 on my 02 Q45 AND still the factory original trans. I do replace the fluid every 50k.
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I picked "I couldn't get the car I wanted with a manual because they aren't made (excl hybrid)" which isn't 100% true. For my style/generation of truck, I was finding thousands with autos, but even expanding my search to the entire US, I found a grand total of three for sale with manuals after several months of searching. A few years later, GM, Dodge, and Ford stopped putting manuals in half-tons completely (Toyota and Nissan never had them).

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I don't like the idea of rolling into the guy behind me at a stop light while on a hill.
I tried to learn to drive a manual car as a teen and completely failed. Now as an adult, I don't see how that i could just go buy a car with a manual and drive home without first getting comfortable with it.
I'd end up stalling at every light, or miss a gear. I have enough to worry about while driving without worrying about what gear i need to be in.
I tried teaching someone how to drive a manual a while back, she just couldn't get it at all. Then her car died and she needed something to get around in. I lent her my S10 with a manual tranny (She wasn't getting the 6spd Corvette...). After driving for a day, she was getting good at it.

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I've only owned autos ( 1986 Ford LTD Wagon, 90 Olds 88, 07 Vibe), but learned on manuals my parents and friends had.
The perk of learning manual is that when you have a professor with two Corvettes, who simply must take them both to a photo shoot for the local Vette Club, you just might get to drive one of them!
Drove his 65 Vette for a little bit, then drove his 2000 6-speed the rest of the day. Yum.

Only reason I keep with autos is the amount of city driving I do, and the fiance can't drive a manual. Roadtrips would suck more if I was the only one who COULD drive.
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Only reason I keep with autos is the amount of city driving I do, and the fiance can't drive a manual.
City dwellers usually understand this implicitly and rural dwellers often don't.
When the highest speed limit in suburbia is 40 on major roads and there is a stop sign on virtually every corner it's not a 'clutch friendly' environment.

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