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' leaking.........stabbed '
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The oil is nasty but the effects are well known.
Oil has been leaking out of oil formations for millions of years so it's not a completely alien substance when introduced to the Marine environment.
As far as I know there isn't really anything like fiberglass in nature.
Are people still going to be getting stabbed in the foot with a pieces of fiberglass for the next 10 to 20 years.
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1) It's not the 'leaking' that's the problem, it's the planetary heating, caused by the greenhouse gases released upon combustion. It's going to 'END' marine life.
2) You might be interested in emergency room admissions for beach-goers' feet, lacerated by shards from broken sea-shells, littering beaches. All parents might teach their children to watch where they're going. They'll grow into adults that watch where they're going, who in turn teach their own kids.
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07-22-2024, 02:09 PM
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Did someone say fiberglass shards?
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Near miss.
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1) It's not the 'leaking' that's the problem, it's the planetary heating, caused by the greenhouse gases released upon combustion. It's going to 'END' marine life.
2) You might be interested in emergency room admissions for beach-goers' feet, lacerated by shards from broken sea-shells, littering beaches. All parents might teach their children to watch where they're going. They'll grow into adults that watch where they're going, who in turn teach their own kids.
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1 hahahahahha yeah humans burning things is going to end all marine life yeah sure. Is the earth flat too?
2 cuts from seashells don't leave shards of fiberglass behind inside you. Plus the real problem isn't what's what washes up on the beach. What's out there floating around that's going to get ingested by sea creatures. The fiberglass being in the Ocean is the real problem I thought that much was obvious and could go without mentioning......
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07-25-2024, 12:43 PM
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1 hahahahahha yeah humans burning things is going to end all marine life yeah sure. Is the earth flat too?
2 cuts from seashells don't leave shards of fiberglass behind inside you. Plus the real problem isn't what's what washes up on the beach. What's out there floating around that's going to get ingested by sea creatures. The fiberglass being in the Ocean is the real problem I thought that much was obvious and could go without mentioning......
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1) I've already explained the mechanism leading to collapse of the entire marine ecosystem. Repeating it for you would be utter folly, as it wasn't important enough for you to read the post and 'learn' about it then.
2) Statistically, if one is 'worried' about lacerating their feet at the beach, then I believe that you'll find that the incidence of fiberglass-related injury, compared to sea shells, is so low, as to not even be on the 'radar screen.'
If your truly concerned about sea creatures, pay attention to the 800-million- tons of plastics which enter the oceans each year.
And last time I looked, fiberglass is dense enough that it 'sinks'. It doesn't 'float.' Lake Travis, outside of Austin, Texas, is 'littered' with the remains of sunken fiberglass boats.
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And assuming everyone reads every post is not?
[citation needed]
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1) I've already explained the mechanism leading to collapse of the entire marine ecosystem. Repeating it for you would be utter folly, as it wasn't important enough for you to read the post and 'learn' about it then.
2) Statistically, if one is 'worried' about lacerating their feet at the beach, then I believe that you'll find that the incidence of fiberglass-related injury, compared to sea shells, is so low, as to not even be on the 'radar screen.'
If your truly concerned about sea creatures, pay attention to the 800-million- tons of plastics which enter the oceans each year.
And last time I looked, fiberglass is dense enough that it 'sinks'. It doesn't 'float.' Lake Travis, outside of Austin, Texas, is 'littered' with the remains of sunken fiberglass boats.
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If fiberglass sinks then why does it wash up on beachs after a blade shatters?
Not talking about boats in freshwater, this is wind turbines in the seas.
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You prolly find stuff like chunks of steel, container freight, windmill pieces not beacuse it floats, but because the drag the pieces have in the water to the currents or wave or storm action.
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And assuming everyone reads every post is not?
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' why? '
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If fiberglass sinks then why does it wash up on beachs after a blade shatters?
Not talking about boats in freshwater, this is wind turbines in the seas.
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I can't answer your specific question.
North of me, on the West side of I-35, just South of HWY-82, in Gainesville, Texas, is a holding facility for wind turbine blades.
I've walked the facility, and have 'gotten inside' the individual blades. They're hollow for awhile, near the blade 'root.'
The wall section is enormously thick fiberglass reinforced epoxy. They weigh tons, and I don't know how they could possibly be lighter than the sea water they would displace, if placed in the ocean.
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A GOOGLE search brought up a G.E. Vernova-built Haliade-X wind turbine, in the Vineyard Wind 1, offshore farm, of which, one of its 107-meter blades broke off, 20-meters from it's root, with small fragments washing up on Martha's Vineyard. I suppose that the 'large' pieces sank.
The material on the beach was described as green or white 'foamboard'. Some photos do show traces of fiberglass bonded to some of the foam debris, so it appears that 'unadulterated' fiberglass is not buoyant in sea water.
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