You can lead a horse to water ...( Friend buying a Jeep )

[Xist]

Elk inhabit forested areas at high altitude within a range where a water source is nearby. They prefer the higher elevations from 7,000 to about 10,000 feet which is referred to as their "summer range". They will migrate to lower elevations during the winter when heavy snow forces them to seek lower ground. Their typical habitats include the White Mountains area, the Mogollon Rim and the Kaibab Forest.

Herds can commonly be seen in the areas around Flagstaff, Williams, Payson, Heber Overgaard, Show Low, Pinetop Lakeside, Greer, Alpine and generally any forested area.

When you drive through forested country, always be on the lookout for elk. Every year there are many incidents of elk suddenly leaping onto roads and even freeways. At a weight of 800 to 1,200 pounds, those type of accidents can cause serious damage and can result in fatalities.

Arizona Elk

Mom lives in Show Low and Payson is about halfway, so I consider myself "safe" between Phoenix and Payson. They also generally come out at night, so as long as we drive during the day, we should be okay.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

Irresponsible drivers can ruin other peoples' lives even with some random econobox. Then, I wouldn't feel any sorrow if they met the natural selection as long as they didn't take any innocent along...

Even responsible drivers cause accidents. Furthermore, we don't need survival of the fittest to select out all bad drivers considering it isn't a skill that will be relevant for much longer. The people it selects out may have many positive attributes to contribute to family, friends, and community.

Another problem is that due to adverse selection, the worst drivers are likely to be the ones selecting the larger vehicles. This would be an unnatural selection since those with the poor skills are the ones surviving while the responsible drivers parish.

[ME_Andy]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Another problem is that due to adverse selection, the worst drivers are likely to be the ones selecting the larger vehicles.

LOL. Paraphrasing: the dumb people who choose a 20-mpg SUV are more likely to cause accidents.

[Cd]

In the near future, the rich will be the first ones buying the automated vehicles that swerve and brake in milliseconds - much faster than a human could ever do.

It's the poor that will be dying in car accidents.

[Frank Lee]

Something about this automated driving thing really rubs me the wrong way.

[gone-ot]

Frank, since computers NEVER make mistakes, that would mean that ANY accident would obviously be the "other" persons fault!

[Frank Lee]

I can't believe anyone even wants it in the first place.

[Fat Charlie]

The Anti-SUV Movement

Decried as gas-guzzling road hazards, SUVs are also under fire for supporting terrorism by increasing U.S. dependence on Mideast oil. What do you think?

"But what if I need my SUV for sporting or utilitating?"
Carl Davis
Roofer

"I'm sorry, but I simply don't buy your argument that SUVs indirectly put my dollars into the hands of al-Qaeda via the Saudis. My Explorer is so comfortable!"
Christine Watros
Homemaker

"Yes, the average U.S. automobile has doubled in weight since 1990, but so has the average U.S. citizen."
Amy Benton
Teacher

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by Frank Lee

I can't believe anyone even wants it in the first place.

While on the one hand I'd like to be chauffeured around by a fembot android; on the other, I'd like to oversteer through corners on gravel roads on my own.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Sure the usage of SUVs can be pointed out as a national security hazard due to the increased dependence on foreign oil, but it's not an excuse to not develop cleaner alternative fuels.