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Old 06-11-2009, 10:50 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Doviatt,I apologize if I offended you.My reply is directed to all the posts that are attacking my posts without even knowing who I am or what I am about. Your reply is welcome as all other replies that want to get more information.
Apology accepted. Will you provide the data? At this point I would say saving face is more important than your unproven mpg gains (finish the experiment). Take the magnets off and hope that your mileage goes down. Advise: Don't argue your position any more with out the data.

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Old 06-11-2009, 10:59 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Doax, Thank you for your reply. I have stated I would remove the magnet to see if there is a difference in milage. I am just as interested in making sure that the magnet is the source. If you have any tests you want me to do I would be glad to try. As the magnet is a small investment it is not worth doing expensive outsourced tests to prove a point.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:59 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Ok, so I am less intelligent because I sense a total lack of factual verifiable information, coupled with assertions contradictory to generally established knowledge about use of magnets for saving fuel, and I call it out loud, when I encounter it.

Therefore hondo434, who is playing coy about facts but is generous with indignation is the intelligent one, and also authorized to certify others' intelligence...

Enough of this charade and name calling!!

hondo434, post verifiable facts or apologize or get lost. You are the one with a story here, and you are doing everything else but tell it.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:04 AM   #24 (permalink)
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doviatt, I will take off magnet and post results. As I stated previously my results were highway driving and my next trip is scheduled for early august, but if I can do a meaningful trip before then I will post it.
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Hummingbird, If an apology is what it takes to be civil and be friends then I will be man enough to apologize. I don't post to forums that often and I'm not familiar with protocals of posting information. All I ask is that I be afforded the courtesy of a solid discussion before I am accosted and defamed.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:23 AM   #26 (permalink)
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From EPA: "Gas-Saving" Products: Fact or Fuelishness?
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Gas prices are up, and so is the volume of advertising for "gas-saving" products. When gasoline prices rise, consumers often look for ways to improve fuel efficiency. Although there are practical steps you can take to increase gas mileage, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) warns you to be wary of any gas-saving claims for automotive devices or oil and gas additives. Even for the few gas-saving products that have been found to work, the savings have been small.

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Fuel Line Devices (magnets). These magnetic devices, clamped to the outside of the fuel line or installed in the fuel line, claim to change the molecular structure of gasoline.

The EPA has evaluated: PETRO-MIZER; POLARION-X; Super-Mag Fuel Extender; Wickliff Polarizer [fuel line magnet/intake air magnet].
I personally tried one, and found no difference. It was a few years ago, and I didn't scientifically test it.

I'm not attacking you, but I am skeptical of the magnets. I believe that you did find a difference, but I think something else caused it.
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Palemelanesian, I understand you position, I know many tests have been done and there is a voodoo mentality about the efficacy of magnets. What I am thinking if we don't know the effect the magnet has on fuel then how can we come up with a test to see what we don't know anything about works, if that makes sense.
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I won't rule out the possibility that magnets are doing something to the fuel. However, if that doesn't translate to a difference at the gas pump, I really don't care.
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Alright hondo434, I have my reservations, but let your numbers roll... Let there be one convert at the end of this discussion, and lets keep it very objective.

Binghamton, NY is base to two other ecomodders already, so I guess verification should not be difficult.

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