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Old 06-10-2009, 02:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I love magnets. They stick to the fridge better than those little suction-cup thingies.

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Old 06-10-2009, 03:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:01 AM   #13 (permalink)
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theres no real reason to become too negative towards this person, if he honestly has a mileage improvement then there must be a reason.

what strikes me is that you are not hypermiling for better FE, wich imo would be the first logic thing to do. it also means that the slightest un-noticable change in driving style can result in significant FE improvement.
paying 100's? of dollars for a controversial tool wich in the FE world is seen a scam is a rather strange choice. while hypermiling is not only free, but it saves you money at the verry first tank with a result that is proven.
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:16 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Well... there is a reason, and that is the total pantload that is post #3. It goes above and beyond the stupidity of mere "fe improvements".
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Old 06-11-2009, 08:42 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Sepp, Thank you, You are the first intelligent reply to my post. I understand your wonderment about hypermiling and being free. My first point is I am retired and don't drive much locally and take occasional vacation trips with the wife. I am not too familar with all the hyper. techniques and afraid I will damage car by altering my driving habits. I have started downshifting the auto transmission to lower gear to help braking and maybe save some gas? I think it will lessen wear on brakes. I don't think turning off engine while driving is good for transmission. Hypermilng doesn't pass the wifey test. I was told just doing the downshift thing was driving my sister-in-law crazy.
As far spending a lot of money on magnets, they are not expensive and last forever. Last august we took a trip of about 1000 miles which before the install would have taken about 36 gallons of fuel at 28 mpg. Getting 36 mpg it took about 28 gallons. That is about 8gallons of fuel. At that time fuel was around 4.00 per gallon. So doing the math 8x 4=32 dollars worth of gas which paid for the magnet twice over just on that trip alone.
Magnatism is like electricity, you see it,you can't taste it, you can't smell it, you can't hear it, you can'feel it, so it is a great unknown and people are afraid of the unknown.
That is why I wanted to try the device and make my own judgement whether it is viable or not. If I had listened to the naysayers I would still be getting the same milage but I decided to try and it paid off. Now I am passing on my experience to whoever wants to use it. I have installed magnets, my milage increased and that is the bottom line. How it happens I can't say for sure. Thier isn't any test I know of to show difference except maybe a dyno test. I do know the effect of magnets is very fragile. The effect can be destroyed by anything causing turbulence in the fuel, it can't go through gas filters or sharp bends and has to be right up to fuel rails to get the most benifit. I monitor a asian manufacturing network and they are manufacturing hundreds of products utilizing magnets. They are now making fuel pipes whether its' gas, natural gas, cng,lpg, with magnets on the inside of the pipes instead of wrapped around the outside of the pipes which will give the fuel direct contact with magnets, thus solving the question of will magnets penetrate rubber,steel, plastic, ect. I am trying to get a sample product so I can install on my gas furnace and hot water heater. It is difficult communicating with them, but I have ordered and received products from asia. They seem to be honest and have fast service and delivery.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:26 AM   #16 (permalink)
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...I do know the effect of magnets is very fragile. The effect can be destroyed by anything causing turbulence in the fuel, it can't go through gas filters or sharp bends and has to be right up to fuel rails to get the most benifit. I monitor a asian manufacturing network and they are manufacturing hundreds of products utilizing magnets. They are now making fuel pipes whether its' gas, natural gas, cng,lpg, with magnets on the inside of the pipes instead of wrapped around the outside of the pipes which will give the fuel direct contact with magnets, thus solving the question of will magnets penetrate rubber,steel, plastic, ect. I am trying to get a sample product so I can install on my gas furnace and hot water heater. It is difficult communicating with them, but I have ordered and received products from asia. They seem to be honest and have fast service and delivery.
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Effect of magnets is very fragile - it may get destroyed by anything in your system, so don't blame me or the product if it doesn't work for you. It must be something in your car that made it bad. it's never the product's fault!

I know somebody who makes good quality useless magnet products. I can answer any objection you may have, in spite of the effect of magnets being very fragile. Don't feel bad if you don't have a car to put it in, I can sell it to gas furnaces and hot water heater users too.

I not only know somebody who makes the stuff, but they are HONEST (incredible!) and good to work with.

Inference:
So what are you waiting for? express your interest and line up...
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:58 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Hummingbird, Your "translation " of the english language is coming along. You should listen to the training tapes a few more times and maybe you start to get it right!
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:08 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Hondo434, we work off proven facts and testing here on EM. The 65+ modifications list we have here are proven modifications.

The idea of using magnets on fuel lines is nothing new, and also has never been proven to work. Someone coming to our boards saying, 'hey, this works' is not enough for us. If you want to prove it, do some solid A-B-A testing over a good handful of miles. Until you provide this info, we will be very skeptical.
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Sepp, Thank you, You are the first intelligent reply to my post.
I'm offended. What was wrong with my reply. All I did was ask for data. That seems fairly intelligent.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:40 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Doviatt,I apologize if I offended you.My reply is directed to all the posts that are attacking my posts without even knowing who I am or what I am about. Your reply is welcome as all other replies that want to get more information.

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