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Old 03-06-2011, 05:56 PM   #121 (permalink)
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I've fitted a giant horseshoe magnet to the roof of my house pointing west south west. So anyone in the US who gets better FE going east owes me money
Forget it! I'm not paying you one red cent, not one thin dime. Not until you show me that any increased FE on my truck is due to your magnet.


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Old 03-06-2011, 06:17 PM   #122 (permalink)
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There is a member testing the magnets with a similar car to me. It's taking longer than I anticipated because of car drivability issues.
Uh oh, I know who that member is.........me.

I consider hondo to be a decent chap, a very likeable person, and one willing to spend his money for someone else to extend the use of their vehicle as an expiremental device.

After applying the magnets to the fuel line, I saw no change whatsoever. No to be dissuaded, Hondo sent me a more powerful strip of magnets to be appled to the airstream close to the throttle body. There was indeed an immediate response in the car's performance--it nearly quit working altogether. Why, I don't know, you could easily chock it up to nearly 200K worth of existence over 13 years not being willing to be used as an experimental vessel, but the effect disappeared as soon as I removed the magnets. Sad thing is, I left the magnets in my house and my 5 beautiful daughters thought 10 tiny powerful magnets were the coolest toy in the world and lost them.

My suspicion is for a magnet to be powerful enough to affect the fuel or air of a ICE, it would require a dangerously powerful magnet, and that is neither cost effective nor advisable. I would offer that the magnets did affect the engine performance, albeit negatively. It may simply be a matter of changing the polarity of the magnets, or sheilding the magnets from sensitive components.

But I wouldn't harbor personal attacks on hondo, nor encourage them. I suspect the reason he saw a result wasn't the magnets doing their thing, but the result of it not being a double blind test.
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Old 03-06-2011, 06:29 PM   #123 (permalink)
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It's taking longer than I anticipated because of car drivability issues.
Ya gotsta hava reliable baseline or it is all just a colossal waste of time.

In this case, you can have a reliable baseline and it will still be a colossal waste of time.
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Old 03-06-2011, 07:15 PM   #124 (permalink)
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shadetree mechanic, Good to hear from you. You must have gone on vacation, your milelage jumped up! Concerning the lost magnets with your kids, if any of them are young make sure they didn't accidently swallow any, that wouldn't be good.
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Old 03-06-2011, 09:04 PM   #125 (permalink)
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then let me test your HOAX

so you have the stones to respond to me
outstanding - i commend you for that

now
(to repeat the earlier offer which you did not respond to )
allow me to test your HOAX , i have the tools and the knowledge

i eagerly await your reply
i will upload test results here - win, loose or HOAX

ready , begin

you mis spelled whimpering , but i will correctly spell your name when i post the gathered evidence that will refute your HOAX

spank you very much
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Your trying a magnet once and failing,edit by hondo
Your trying a magnet once and failing, then running back to your mother wimpering is not scientific proof that magnets don't have an effect on fuel
is not scientific proof that magnets don't have an effect on fuel.
Real scientists test and retest for years before they "discover" the next best thing. Today, if something doesn't happen in immediatly, then it's never going to happen. There are thousands of vehicles out there configured in hundreds of ways and just as many cofiguratons of magnet power and strengths. The chances of you getting the right combination in one try is astronomical.
I tried this setup and I got results whether the fuel was changed or not is not the point. The point is something changed in the vehicle to increase the mileage. That is the important part, what changed is what I'm looking for and how to duplicate it.
There is a member testing the magnets with a similar car to me. It's taking longer than I anticipated because of car drivability issues.

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Old 03-06-2011, 09:19 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Forget it! I'm not paying you one red cent, not one thin dime. Not until you show me that any increased FE on my truck is due to your magnet.

I've determined a flaw in my design of course, what you gain going east you lose going west. And the effect is drown by the big bar magnet we are all stuck to all the time...

All of this needs more R&D, so now what I want is a few investors....
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Magnets are magical things. You never know when you might hit on the right combination that will improve your fuel mileage, because you know there has to be a connection, as magnetism is so mysterious.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:46 PM   #129 (permalink)
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are you and ufo sitting at the same bar!!!!??????
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I have decided that the magnet will be removed as non of you cheapskate freeloaders paid up

Now of course if I'd pretended to be the long lost cousin of the former president of Nigeria then you would have paid, heh? heh?

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are you and ufo sitting at the same bar!!!!??????
Man walks into a bar. "Ouch" he said.

or even

Dyslexic man walks into a bra.

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