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Old 01-02-2019, 12:16 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Yeah Germany is doing so well the only country beating them in the area of increased CO2 production is china.
China is installing enough domestic rooftop solar hot water and PV to enable taking 54-coal-fired plants offline.Some of their coal-based infrastructure will just be a bridge.

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Old 01-02-2019, 12:22 PM   #112 (permalink)
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C.Boyden Gray,Bush family friend, has worked to prevent the EPA listing of (coal-fired power plant )fine particulates as a 'pollutant.'It's a known human health hazard,but what the hey,we're only talkin' about Americans.Dime a dozen.A continuation of the eugenics movement.
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China is installing enough domestic rooftop solar hot water and PV to enable taking 54-coal-fired plants offline.Some of their coal-based infrastructure will just be a bridge.
We shall see. The data do not support this right now. China had the largest increase in CO2 emissions in 2017.
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China is installing enough domestic rooftop solar hot water and PV to enable taking 54-coal-fired plants offline.Some of their coal-based infrastructure will just be a bridge.
I will believe it when I see it.
That commie nation has done almost nothing to better their environment or the people in it.
China has exploded way past the US as far as CO2 production. Their CO2 production looks like the Mann hockey stick graph.
Surely saying it's a bridge to solar is a joke and I just didn't get it because the government didn't issue me a sense of humor in basic training.
China was on track to open a few dozen coal fired plants in 2019.
Yeah by the time that happens I will be driving what ever made tesla obsolete, be dead and voting democrat.
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We shall see. The data do not support this right now. China had the largest increase in CO2 emissions in 2017.
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It's a relatively short term fix.If you've read 'The Good Earth',by Pearl S. Buck,you've had an insight into how miserable the climate can be there,and what lengths people will go to, to be warm.
Once the garden and orchard are producing,the trips to the grocery are over with.
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I will believe it when I see it.
That commie nation has done almost nothing to better their environment or the people in it.
China has exploded way past the US as far as CO2 production. Their CO2 production looks like the Mann hockey stick graph.
Surely saying it's a bridge to solar is a joke and I just didn't get it because the government didn't issue me a sense of humor in basic training.
China was on track to open a few dozen coal fired plants in 2019.
Yeah by the time that happens I will be driving what ever made tesla obsolete, be dead and voting democrat.
I'd beg to differ with you.
The other night,a science reporter on PBS,made mention of the fact,that China's hybrid government doesn't have to get things through a Congress,or Supreme Court,and that it can fast-track any project it chooses without opposition.
The US is being left behind in the dust because of the corporate-owned senators and White House which prevent an open market which is politically agnostic.
Our days as an apex predator are numbered.Chalmers Johnson's 'Blow-Back' trilogy is pretty convincing.
The Chinese will probably finish the job the USSR failed to do.
My Political Science professor lectured on this in 1976. Prescient!
Again,the arithmetic is,the load-shedding due to domestic solar will obviate the need for 54-coal-fired power plants.Negawatts.
Just like Texas today.Coal is dead,and when the Barnett shale runs out of gas,those plants will shutter just like Mary Barra's GM assembly plants.
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Just ignore the human rights violations, thousands of people poised by contaminated everything and who could forget the millions of people who starved to death under Mao.
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Just ignore the human rights violations, thousands of people poised by contaminated everything and who could forget the millions of people who starved to death under Mao.
Mao died more than 40 years ago. A lot has changed in two generations
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Not really.
Thats like saying Hitler died more than 70 years ago and the nazis around today aren't as bad as they used to be.
Given the chance and in power they will revert back to their old ways if they thought they could get away with it.
Thats one thing they have in common.
The communits chinese still have millions of repressed people, political prisons.
They just don't kill as many people, just Tibetans, monks and some democracy distants people no one will notice when they turn up permanently disappeared.
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