multi throttle body geo 1.0 liter

[watercat]

I'd be surprise if it lasted any less. Back in 1990 when i bought my first Geo new i towed two jet skis i raced all around the west coast and never even burnt up a clutch and i just sold that car two years ago. This car has been built with this in mine I did install the 4 cylinder fly wheel and clutch kit which must have at least twice the surface area. I use to have a tow rope in my back seat and i would make the next guy wanting to use the boat ramp give me a pull out if he wanted to launch or retrieve his boat on steep ramps. Its not really working all that hard gong down the free way. i must have a 1000 miles towing with it or more now. the big hurtle was the suspension moving all over the place when turning tigh corners or coming off a freeway and going to the left at agood speed the car behind would push the ass end a bit and at first it would make your star fish pucker a bit but i got use to that. then i fixed by adding in two sets of rubber springs lifts on each wheel and my new tires are rated at 100 mph with no air they are amazing. they look like thy came off a fork lift with solid tires. they grip in rain or shine so well the slide is gone and now the car doesn't roll or twist on teh springs. to be able to travel 300 400 miles at 50 plus mpg and then get half or better towing home its just money in my pocket. as far as trans axle there cheap i can buy one on the money i save on almost every trip i make.

[mwebb]

...."my new tires are rated at 100 mph with no air"...

so
you have not mentioned a wheel upgrade , which means you are using
12" steel wheels with 10mm studs to fasten the 12" steel wheels to the car .

which must mean that ;
you have found a source for 12" run flats ? perhaps you would be kind enough to share with us that source as many metro users are always asking where to find quality 12" tires

most run flats can be driven for 100 miles with no air , but not at 100 mph .

do
continue

[watercat]

Silverstone Rallye S525 Tyres is the link i raced this tires for years. if you take all the air out of them on geo the car is so light you can barley tell if at all. in fact you can not tell if they have air by looking at them on the car. there not cheap and there not DOT rated there a full race tire from Malaysia and they are the FIA world rally tire. So a 550 hp soob or focus can run full out with a hole in the tire. traction is amazing in fast car or a truck.
mwebb take a deep breath be nice on the forum. its not about catching some one up in a mistake its about learning from others experiences.

[watercat]

also I'm using Nissan altima rims. i believe the 93 to 04 model. the trick to the install for the 10 mm studs is a washer. I'll post a video picture of how i do it. its easy and simple and i have been using this method for the street and race 15 years at least. I buy the stainless washers at lowes that fit over the 10 mm studs i cant remember what size the hole is but they fit pretty decent. then I just take antisieze and my impact gun and run the lug nuts down to fully compress the washer a couple times and you will see the washer takes a perfect form of the nut and rim hole. then I just torque them like normal. Its not like flattening a penny because its not squishing the metal or stretching it just shaping it to the curve. you can use them over and over once you make them and they keep there form perfectly.

I also never balance tires with weights I always add centrifugal balancing beads when mounting the tires to make sure there perfect at every speed. Nothing is as smooth as beads. if you don't have a tire machine just let the air out of a tire and collapse the bead on the short side and just pour in a beer cup full of air soft plastic beads wally world has the best price on a 10,000 round package. then tear of the weights with pliers and fill the tire with air and your done for ever. The tire stores sell sand you can pour through the valve stem like semi trucks have but its expensive.

Its just like when your running your 4x4 and you put golf balls in the tires so if you rip off a tires tread on a bigger mudder you can still drive home with out shaking the truck to death from the tire out of balance. the golf balls go right up where there needed and it just like you didn't lose a few ounces (28 grams per once i think) of tread 15' from the center of the rim. Just remember that 7 grams of weight at 2000 rpm 4" from the center of a spinning shaft is 7 lbs. that's why you balance tires and engines. every gram is 1 lb of weight and it only get worse as the shaft spins faster.

[mwebb]

there is one of my snow tires Nokian Hakkapalita , mounted an an Acura Legend alloy rim from the late 8os to early 90s , balanced on a real wheel balancer .
on a G10 geo metro - wheel fastener torque
45 ftlbs thread 12 mm x 1.25
i would never consider driving around with no air in the tire , in fact in the winter i was running them at 50 psi
i would never consider towing anything with this car even with this tire and wheel setup -
i showed you mine - now show me yours

some other
wheels that fit Geo Metro

ACURA 2.2, 3.0 CL 1995 >
ACURA 2.2/ 3.0 CL 1995 >
ACURA 2.5TL 1995 >
ACURA LEGEND 1986-90
ACURA TC 2.5 1992-95
ACURA TL 2.5 1996-98
ACURA VIGOR 1991-93
ACURA VIGOR 1992-94
AMC EAGLE SUMMIT 1989-93
AMC/EAGLE SUMMIT 1989-93
CHEVROLET CHEVY II 100 1962
CHEVROLET CHEVY II 100 1962
CHEVROLET CHEVY II 100 1963
CHEVROLET CHEVY II 100 1963
4 X 4.5 6.50 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II 100 1964 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.00 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II 100 1964 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.50 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II 300 1962 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.00 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II 300 1962 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.50 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II 300 1963 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.00 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II 300 1963 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.50 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II NOVA 400 1962 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.00 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II NOVA 400 1962 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.50 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II NOVA 400 1963 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.00 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II NOVA 400 1963 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.50 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II NOVA 400 1964 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.00 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II NOVA 400 1964 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.50 X 13
CHEVROLET CHEVY II NOVA SS 1964 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 6.50 X 13
CHEVROLET SPRINT 1988-89 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 10 X 1.25 59.6
CHEVROLET/GMC SPRINT 1988-89 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 4 10 X 1.25 59.6 H
DODGE COLT 1979-92 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 13 X 5.5 12 X 1.5 57.1 H
DODGE COLT3 1979-92 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 57.1
FORD FESTIVA 1987-93 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 4 12 X 1.5 H
FORD MAVERICK, MUSTANG,ETC. 1964-74 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 6 1/2-RH L/M
FORD MID-SIZE (FAIRLANE, FALCON, MAVERICK,MUSTANG,ETC.) 4 LUG 1964-74 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 1/2-RH
FORD MID-SIZE 4LUG FAIRLANE, FALCON, 1964-74 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 6 1/2-RH L/M
FORD MUSTANG 6 CYL- 4 LUG 1964-66 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 1/2-RH 62.0
FORD MUSTANG 6 CYL- 4 LUG 1967-68 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 1/2-RH 62.0
GEO METRO 1989-94 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 4 10 X 1.25 59.6 H
GEO METRO 1989-97 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 10 X 1.25 59.6
GEO METRO 1995-97 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 4 12 X 1.25 59.6 H
GEO METRO CONV. 1990-93 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 13 X 4.5 12 X 1.25 59.6 H
GEO METRO CONV. 1991-93 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 10 X 1.25 59.6
HONDA ACCORD 1990-96 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 6 12 X 1.5 64.1 H
HONDA ACCORD 1998-02 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 15 X 6 12 X 1.5 64.1 H
HONDA ACCORD 4LUG, 4CYL 1998-02 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 64.1
HONDA ACCORD EX, LX,WAGON 1990-97 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 15 X 6 12 X 1.5 64.1 H
HONDA CTX 1988-95 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 64.1
HONDA EV MINI VAN 1997 > 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 15 X 6 12 X 1.5 64.1
HONDA PRELUDE SI 1992-96 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 15 X 6 12 X 1.5 64.1 H
HYUNDAI ACCENT 1995-99 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 13 X 5 12 X 1.5 67.1 H
HYUNDAI ACCENT3 1995-99 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
HYUNDAI ELANTRA 1992 > 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 6 12 X 1.5 67.1 H
HYUNDAI ELANTRA 1992-06 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
HYUNDAI EXCEL 1986-94 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 13 X 5 12 X 1.5 67.1 H
HYUNDAI EXCEL3 1986-94 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
HYUNDAI SCOUPE, LS 1990 > 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 6 12 X 1.5 67.1 H
HYUNDAI SONATA 1989 > 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 6 12 X 1.5 67.1 H
HYUNDAI SONATA 1989-05 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
HYUNDAI TIBURON 1997-02 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
HYUNDAI TIBURON 1997-99 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 15 X 7 12 X 1.5 67.1 H
HYUNDAI XC250 1997-99 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
INFINITI G20 1991-03 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.25 66.1
INFINITI G20 1991-96 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 6 12 X 1.25 66.1 H
INFINITI M30 1990-92 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 15 X 6 12 X 1.25 66.1 M
KIA IMAGE 2001-03 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
KIA OPTIMA 2001 > 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1 H
KIA OPTIMA LE, EX 2001-06 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
KIA SPECTRA EX, SX, SPECTRA 5 2005-08 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
MAZDA 323 1986-89 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 13 X 5.5 12 X 1.5 59.6
MAZDA 323 9 1986-89 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 59.6
MAZDA 626 1983-87 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 5.5 12 X 1.5 59.6
MAZDA GLC 1982-85 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 13 X 5.5 12 X 1.5 59.6
MAZDA RX7 GSL/SE 1984-88 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 5.5 12 X 1.5 59.6
MERCURY CAPRI 1991-94 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 5.5 12 X 1.5 59.6
MERCURY TRACER 1988-90 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 13 X 5 12 X 1.5 59.6
MITSUBISHI CORDIA, TREDIA 1983-88 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
MITSUBISHI CORDIA, TREDIA 1983-88 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 13 X 5.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
MITSUBISHI CORDIA, TREDIA 1986-88 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
MITSUBISHI CORDIA, TREDIA 1986-88 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 5.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
MITSUBISHI EXPO 1991-95 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 6 12 X 1.5 67.1
MITSUBISHI GALANT 1985-96 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 14 X 5.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
MITSUBISHI GALANT 1985-98 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
MITSUBISHI LANCER LS 15" 2002 > 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
MITSUBISHI LANCER PZ, RALLY, RALLIART 2002-07 4 X 114.3
4 X 4.5 12 X 1.5 67.1
MITSUBISHI MIRAGE 1985-92
MITSUBISHI MIRAGE 3 1985-92
MITSUBISHI PRECIS 1983-93
MITSUBISHI PRECIS 3 1983-93
MITSUBISHI STARION 1983-87
NISSAN 200SX & TURBO 1984-88
NISSAN 240SX 1989-96
NISSAN 240Z, 260Z,280Z 1970-85
NISSAN 300ZX 1984-86
NISSAN ALTIMA 1993-01
NISSAN AXXESS 1990 >
NISSAN MAXIMA
NISSAN SENTRA 1983-86
NISSAN SENTRA & SE-R 2000 >
NISSAN SENTRA S, SE, R, SER
NISSAN SENTRA S, SL 2007-08
NISSAN STANZA 1979-83
NISSAN STANZA
NISSAN STANZA 87-92 1987-92
NISSAN VERSA 1.8S, 1.8SL 2007-08
PLYMOUTH VISTA 1985-94
SAAB 900, TURBO 1984-87
STERLING 825, 827 1987-91
STERLING 825, 827 1987-91
SUZUKI AERIO 2002 >
SUZUKI FORENZA 2004-08
SUZUKI RENO 2005-08
SUZUKI SWIFT 1989-01
SUZUKI SWIFT 1989-97
SUZUKI VERONA 2004-06
TOYOTA CELICA 1976-85
TOYOTA CRESSIDA 1985-88
TOYOTA SUPRA 1979-85
TOYOTA SUPRA L 1983-85
TOYOTA VAN WAGON 2WD 1984-90
VOLVO 40 SERIES 1998-03
VOLVO 40 SERIES 2004 >
VOLVO 40 SERIES 4-LUG (MID-YEAR CHANGES) 1998-04.5

Originally Posted by watercat

Silverstone Rallye S525 Tyres is the link i raced this tires for years. if you take all the air out of them on geo the car is so light you can barley tell if at all. in fact you can not tell if they have air by looking at them on the car. there not cheap and there not DOT rated there a full race tire from Malaysia and they are the FIA world rally tire. So a 550 hp soob or focus can run full out with a hole in the tire. traction is amazing in fast car or a truck.
mwebb take a deep breath be nice on the forum. its not about catching some one up in a mistake its about learning from others experiences.

[watercat]

Well one advantage you have is you have 12mm studs. but for those that have pre 95 cars we have to make adapters to put on the Acura or Nissan rims. Thats my washer bending trick. you shouldn't just say you would never tow like your a autority on the matter it messes with people later that might need to or want to tow. just because you don't want doesn't mean you cant. lets not forget the car is rated for 100lbs of tongue weight and 1000lb trailer.

What you may not be understanding is that the car tows a trailer that weighs much more very well. But when your flat towing a car with a tow bar the towed car has a bit of a push in a tight sharp turn that is created by the towing cars ass end swinging and the towed car still being in a straight line. until the wheel is forced in the towed car to turn it can cause the rear tires of the towing car to slide if the towing cars is not heavy enough. For this reason the standard is to have the towing car be 600lbs heavier than the towed car. This is to add a bit more friction to the ground so the car can not be pushed around but it does not cure the problem. trailers do not have this as you are pulling the tongue around and that is the steering wheel for the trailer. on the towed car you pull on the front of the car until the wheel decide to be forced into the turn.
The cure is stiffer suspension and better tires having the tow bar at the correct angle of level.
i did not say i drive around with no tire pressure i run 50 psi myself i said the tires are rated for 100mph at 0 pressure and that you can not tell on these tires if they actually have air in them or not in the Geo as the car is so light and it hasn't enough power to really work them like a rally car would.
Looks like were doing about the same thing your just doing it in a 95 or newer model. Ive never had much luck getting the really good gas mileage out of the post 94 models what are you getting for a average. here is a video of the tires on the car and my balls hanging out in the breeze. I'll have to shoot some of the spacer washers i make for the rims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72s5g6S-tt0

[watercat]

I'm done with this thread i just read it again. (Done with a real wheel balancer). here i try and show or help a guy do a trick he can pull off at home and end up with some thing that actually works better. And you just take shots at me? Your a dick and if this was my web site i would boot your ass off for acting like an ass.

[mwebb]

"me thinks thou dost protest too much "

[Frank Lee]

There are two reasons why I'm skeptical of heavy towing with Metros:

One is, as noted, the towed pushes the tow-er around. Not good.

The second is, Metro transmissions are barely strong enough to withstand normal single-occupant commuter duty, much less pull around lots of weight while pumping more than stock horsepower through them. Metros are RARE in the yards around here, so no it is not a matter of running to a yard on Saturday with a few bucks to get another transmission.