12 cent federal gas tax increase coming?

[Frank Lee]

I believe it is. Many readers here probably have it now.

I may be missing many of the finer points due to my condition, but is this debate about "the right to do whatever" vs "whatever ends at my nose"? And the example is a belligerent diesel pickup-idling a-hole?

That is a conundrum. On one hand they told us in school that the U.S.A. is The Land Of The Free And The Home Of The Brave. On the other there evidently is some interest in reining in complete anarchy as evidenced by the near universal nationwide adoption of anti-noise disruption laws and ordinances. On the third hand is knowing there can be a mighty big gulf between having a law on the books and the enforcers giving a **** about enforcing it.

I had some neighbors that evidently loooooved the sound of unmuffled ICEs. Every vehicle the punk a$$es got immediately got aftermarket crap exhaust systems. Polite and assertive requests by me to quell the cacophony were met with the typical response (never to my face, of course): "Oh, we found a way to piss people off- let's do more of it! (and lets invite our circle of worthless little friends to join in)" Assertiveness failed and alerting the "enforcers" failed even worse. It took me a long time to realize that since they loved the sound of unmuffled ICEs so and I was in Rome, so to speak, I would do as the Romans do and treat them to even more.

Meet Mowmar Cutoffy:


Yes, that's a stinger, and wow does that 11HP biatch ever scream... and it takes almost two hours to mow the lawn. I'd don a nice H.D. pair of ear protectors for mowing. I noticed my friends across the way would scatter like cockroaches shortly after I started but I wasn't about to waste all that valuable sonic energy; I'd stop and do something else until I noticed they were back.

Their house is up for sale now.

It's too bad I couldn't come up with a different, better solution. Oh well.

Hope I haven't triggered additional cases of A.D.D.- sorry.

[Xist]

We had two members arguing, which did not have anything to do with the rest of us, or this thread.

I was skipping through it, until Frank Lee interrupted the interruption.

Nice story, Frank Lee.

[nemo]

Nice solution. I have neighbors who often like to part until the wee hours while playing loud music. Often thought the best solution would be to blast Hendrix version of the Star-Spangled Banner at 4:30 AM after one of their parties.

Now, if only there is a solution to the constantly raising taxes.

[Frank Lee]

I would love to come over to your place and mow your lawn for you... at about 6 a.m. after a party night.

There are several solutions to rising taxes; among them would be eliminating dependent deductions either totally or limit of two, and having schools funded by parents instead of property owners. Check how big the percentage of YOUR State's budget is for education... well, unless you're in Texas or Mississippi... Stopping the emptying out the national treasure for foreign nation building in favor of maintaining our own infrastructure would be a plus too.

[Hersbird]

If you eliminate some deductions, just eliminate them all, even the standard deduction. They are all ways government takes power. There needs to be a bottom bracket no matter what, even if you are poor you need to pay your "share" so you have some skin in the game. I'm personally for one simple flat tax rate for everybody, no deductions everybody has burden. If you are low income don't worry, your 15% of little is not very much and you still will get much more back with all the welfare programs. Now though you can honestly complain about the taxes you pay, right now 46-47% of households pay no income tax or actually make income on the "tax".

Oh and that would make the IRS virtually unnecessary, along with a large portion of what congress does with making an impossible tax code, not to mention lawyers, accountants, and millions of hours of wasted productivity by a nation screwing around with paperwork.

[user removed]

Good God people, you're talking about eliminating omnipotent beaurocrats. I hope you succeed, but I fear the unemployment around here would quadruple. Just give them a Naval Air Station with F18s doing touch and goes all day long.

regards
Mech

[nemo]

Originally Posted by Old Mechanic

Good God people, you're talking about eliminating omnipotent beaurocrats.

That a good idea. If there weren't so many of them maybe they couldn't mess as many things up. Reduce their number by 50%. Now that what I call downsizing government.

[gone-ot]

U.S.Gooberment should NOT be giving away MONEY it does NOT have (within or without)...simple.

[XYZ]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

U.S.Gooberment should NOT be giving away MONEY it does NOT have (within or without)...simple.

Why not? They can inflate money, and they can print it. We can't do that, but the government can. They can and do, quite literally, decide what our money IS. It's money by fiat. (Fiat meaning not the automobile, but by government dictate.) If they don't get it back through taxation, they will take it from us - one way or the other. They don't see it as OUR money. They see it as theirs. Money is only "ours" temporarily, until they regain control of it.

Feeling better now?

[gone-ot]

Why not? It's called "balanced, fiscal, integrity," the concept of "balanced books" rather than "cooked books."