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Old 10-03-2012, 04:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ohhh.
2.73 on a V8 with Th700 or 4L60x isnt the holy grail of V8 fuel economy but its darn close.
At some point I would like to go from 3.08 gears to 2.73 gears, I expect to pick up a little under 2mpg.
You would see at least that.
My metric for picking up MPGs is to try and stay under $250 per 1 MPG gained.
By the time you bought and installed the 2.73 rear, sold your old one I bet you could be in it for less than $500.
The 2.73 rear ends are toxic to the performance 1/4mile guys, they will all but give them away for free.
is that 2mpg purely highway or can some city increase be expected too?

regarding the mpguino, im not good at anything wiring or electronics so roughly how much would a shop charge to install it?

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Old 10-03-2012, 04:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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With an automatic, I would assume the 2.73s wouldn't improve city-mileage due to acceleration losses. But once you got the Camaro moving at speed, they would help keep the RPMs down.
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I would expect most of the gains from the gear swap to be had on the highway.
A city MPG improvement is possible.
When I put larger tires on my suburban it effected the final drive ratio a little. I expected MPGs to go down in city driving with bigger tires but MPGs stayed the same and may have even increased a little.
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rear visibility

When backing,do you(can you) see below the wing to judge distances?
Also,in the winter,during a good snow,does the entire rear deck get covered over with snow? If so,when you drive,does the opening below the wing appear to have any effect with respect to clearing the decklid?
GM is very careful about rearward vision and the spoiler might have been a compromise,balancing safety and drag reduction/downforce.
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When backing,do you(can you) see below the wing to judge distances?
Also,in the winter,during a good snow,does the entire rear deck get covered over with snow? If so,when you drive,does the opening below the wing appear to have any effect with respect to clearing the decklid?
GM is very careful about rearward vision and the spoiler might have been a compromise,balancing safety and drag reduction/downforce.
nothing can be seen below the rear wing when backing up or looking through the rear view mirror so it has nothing to do with visability, and anytime it snows the rear deck and gap in the spoiler usually gets completely covered and filled in and it really doesnt seem to have any effect on keeping the rear window clean
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nothing can be seen below the rear wing when backing up or looking through the rear view mirror so it has nothing to do with visability, and anytime it snows the rear deck and gap in the spoiler usually gets completely covered and filled in and it really doesnt seem to have any effect on keeping the rear window clean
You might tuft the area back there,and observe the yarn alternately,with gap open,then taped shut,to see if the flow pattern appears to change with the alteration.
When GM was developing the Trans Am Firebird,the Camaro 'kicker' type spoiler had the best performance,but Pontiac had to stay with the 'styling',so they used something more like what is on your car now.

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