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Old 11-14-2012, 08:24 AM   #91 (permalink)
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2 posts up was for the automatic.

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Old 11-14-2012, 09:08 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Impressive MPG numbers considering the high RPMs.
Remember that with only a 2.588 gallon fill, there could be significant pump error. It is not good data, it is just what I have. Do these cars have a lean burn function in the ecu? Is that more standard now than in the 1990s? I also noticed that it seems to cut fuel off in gear under deceleration even at low rpms. I tested that by coasting to lights in neutral and in gear and found that at very slow speeds, under 25 mph, I could make the car's instant mpg gauge read higher mpg by shifting back into gear from a neutral, idle, coast down. Also, AC makes a big difference in this car I saw shifts of 10-15 mpg in the instant numbers whenever I turned on/off the AC.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:09 AM   #93 (permalink)
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Apologies. I picked up the neutral coasting and assumed automatic.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:11 AM   #94 (permalink)
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None needed! Was just clarifying.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:58 PM   #95 (permalink)
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1709 Sparks sold in the US last month (Nov.).
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:17 PM   #96 (permalink)
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34 per US State?

That's ... not really that much.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:03 PM   #97 (permalink)
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I'll eat my words.

One source is saying the manual-transmission Spark will be rated 32 mpg (US) city and 38 mpg highway, for a 34 mpg combined figure.

Blah.

I guess gone are the days when "economy car" also meant good fuel economy. Now you have to pony up extra. Good MPG is now an "option".
Not very good economy for what it is, I agree. I believe the new Honda Civic can do much better with more room and a larger more peppy engine.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:32 PM   #98 (permalink)
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...it appears GM has 'compromised' the gearing of the Spark more toward "Peppy-Yuppee-Performance" rather than toward "Frugal-Fuel-Economy".
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:47 PM   #99 (permalink)
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If only Chevrolet had sucked it in and sent over the 60 mpg 1.0 instead.

Typically, these small cars have poor gearing and aero for highway running, but have great economy in traffic. 30-35+ around town is nothing to sneeze at.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:18 AM   #100 (permalink)
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If it had an extra, higher gear, for highway cruising it would be a good improvement. And also, the 1.0L engine wouldn't be so bad as the average Joe might point out.

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