Anyone using magnets to increase milage?

[some_other_dave]

Then maybe we could cheer Darwin on?

(Or am I just a horrible, terrible person for saying that?)

-soD

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by some_other_dave

Then maybe we could cheer Darwin on?

(Or am I just a horrible, terrible person for saying that?)

-soD

Couple of thoughts....
Maybe your just a horrible person if you DONT say it??

And remind me why we are cheering Darwin on???
( I have lost track of all the subplots in thus thread)

[D.O.G.]

Here's a paper that seems to be supporting fuel magnets.

Effect of Magnetic Field Strength on Hydrocarbon Fuel Viscosity and Engine Performance | Aktar | IJMCA
(Click on the PDF download near the bottom)

I'd be interested in any informed comments on their testing methods and conclusions.

[Frank Lee]

I'd feel better about an SAE reviewed paper.

[mort]

Originally Posted by D.O.G.

Here's a paper that seems to be supporting fuel magnets.

Effect of Magnetic Field Strength on Hydrocarbon Fuel Viscosity and Engine Performance | Aktar | IJMCA
(Click on the PDF download near the bottom)

I'd be interested in any informed comments on their testing methods and conclusions.

There doesn't seem to be any discussion of their methods.
It looks like they ran one series of tests on each engine, diesel on a dyno, and a motorbike on a track. Seems like there are a vast number of uncontrolled and unmentioned variables that could be important. I'd like to see many more tests run in an arbitrary order. Maybe the diesel engine was stared cold, and as it came up to operating temperature it's efficiency improved? Each diesel test took between 77 seconds and 105 seconds. Which seems like a rather short run to get the reported precision.
This:
"The diesel consumption decreases till 4000 gauss and deteriorates beyond 4000 gauss... This could be due to other effects coming in picture post 4000 gauss field viz. viscous heating on the fuel on account of very high magentic filed strength." Is pure BS.

-mort

[Frank Lee]

The site also has HHO: Search Results

I suppose if I looked around in there some more I'd come across the Ram Implosion Wing.

[Xist]

If a field is introduced perpendicular to that circuit, according to Faraday`s law, there will be an electro-motive-force acting on the electron. The EMF has the effect of changing the nature of the circulating motion of atomic orbits.
As a result of this field the electron will be accelerated according to Newton`s Law.

How do I magnetize my tin foil hat?!

[ChazInMT]

[JRMichler]

Originally Posted by D.O.G.

Here's a paper that seems to be supporting fuel magnets.

Effect of Magnetic Field Strength on Hydrocarbon Fuel Viscosity and Engine Performance | Aktar | IJMCA
(Click on the PDF download near the bottom)

I'd be interested in any informed comments on their testing methods and conclusions.

I got as far as Declustering of the Hydrocarbon fuel molecules in the second sentence of the abstract. UNICORN!

[D.O.G.]

Originally Posted by mort

There doesn't seem to be any discussion of their methods.
It looks like they ran one series of tests on each engine, diesel on a dyno, and a motorbike on a track. Seems like there are a vast number of uncontrolled and unmentioned variables that could be important. I'd like to see many more tests run in an arbitrary order. Maybe the diesel engine was stared cold, and as it came up to operating temperature it's efficiency improved? Each diesel test took between 77 seconds and 105 seconds. Which seems like a rather short run to get the reported precision.
This:
"The diesel consumption decreases till 4000 gauss and deteriorates beyond 4000 gauss... This could be due to other effects coming in picture post 4000 gauss field viz. viscous heating on the fuel on account of very high magentic filed strength." Is pure BS.

-mort

I agree that their "real world" testing is so loose that you can't rely on it.

I was intrigued by the viscosity test though.
I don't know if that really relates to decreased fuel consumption, but it indicates that magnets can have some sort of affect on fuel.