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Old 11-29-2018, 05:55 PM   #281 (permalink)
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Just trying to put it in terms others will understand. My preference with be a prolate geodesic construction


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Old 12-02-2018, 07:58 AM   #282 (permalink)
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Xist: I used CarGuru. There are plenty of higher mileage base level cars for less. I was just pointing out what you can get for the same price as an Arcmoto.
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:42 AM   #283 (permalink)
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Cargurus seems nice, but it only searches dealerships:


Those are the top five Leaves found near Phoenix, between $7,500 and $14,000 for a 2013 or a 2015 with 10,000 - 55,000 miles. There were eleven more the site considered to be worse deals.

I am having difficulty seeing a reason to purchase an Arcimoto when I could buy a Leaf.
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Leaves that old are pretty much all going to be dropping battery bars soon, especially in your area. Our Leaf still has all bars at 38k miles but I expect it to lose one soon.
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Replacement batteries cost about what Prius batteries are supposed to cost.

Installation, though...

I want to see someone retrofit a Leaf with a Tesla pack!
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Replacement batteries cost about what Prius batteries are supposed to cost.

Installation, though...

I want to see someone retrofit a Leaf with a Tesla pack!
A replacement Leaf battery is $6,000 and comes with a new warranty,

A replacement battery for my Prius (2nd gen) was $2200 from Toyota but few cars actually needed a replacement. That was the older NiMH battery, I don't know how the newer Li-ion batteries are holding up.
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I saw that they were $2,850. Would six thousand include installation?
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I saw that they were $2,850. Would six thousand include installation?
If they made it that hard to install they deserve a bad reputation. $3200 is 3-4 week's worth of technician labor at dealer rates. They originally built the whole car with less labor than that!

PS. The batteries are about the most expensive thing possible to ship, so I could see hundreds of dollars in shipping but still.
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I saw that they were $2,850. Would six thousand include installation?
A new OEM Leaf battery is $6000. The book time for installation is 3 hours labor. The 2011 and 2012 cars also require a $225 mounting kit.

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