Arcimoto, the real thing? ($12k tandem EV trike, 70/130 mi. range)

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by JSH

That is the "Fair" Tax plan which is massively regressive.

Washington State is another example of a regressive tax structure based primarily on a sales tax.

It's not regressive or progressive, it's flat as you point out.

We already have a regressive tax system as I've explained.

The point is that other programs exist as a safety net to lower income people. The wealthy end up paying more overall because there are no clever ways to avoid tax liability. We get thousands of human life years back due to eliminating "doing your taxes". We eliminate the enormous economic drain of CPAs, IRS, and many of the special interests and lobbyists.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

It's not regressive or progressive, it's flat as you point out.

We already have a regressive tax system as I've explained.

The point is that other programs exist as a safety net to lower income people. The wealthy end up paying more overall because there are no clever ways to avoid tax liability. We get thousands of human life years back due to eliminating "doing your taxes". We eliminate the enormous economic drain of CPAs, IRS, and many of the special interests and lobbyists.

A regressive tax system is defined as one where poor households pay a larger percentage of their income in taxes than wealthy households.

Any sales tax based tax system is going to be regressive because poor people spend a larger percentage of their income and they spend much more of it on things that are taxed. That is clearly shown in states choose to raise they majority of their tax revenue though a sales tax.

The complexity of doing taxes is not because we have an income tax - it is because we chose to make our income tax complicated.

We could pay a simple rate without deductions.
We could tax individuals not households
The IRS could calculate our taxes for us which is what most of the developed world does.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by Batman Junior

Enough with the tax talk, thanks. It's veered way past anything related to Arcimoto now.

I'm starting a list of people who disrespect the Mods.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I'm starting a list of people who disrespect the Mods.

Is MetroMPG a Moderator? If so how is anyone suppose to know that?

[MetroMPG]

As disrespectful a recent US political 'debate' I watched a bit of!

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I'm starting a list of people who disrespect the Mods.

I'm starting a list of people who do violence to reason... so far everyone is on it.

I'll point out my post was concurrent to the warning.

Originally Posted by JSH

Is MetroMPG a Moderator? If so how is anyone suppose to know that?

Batman Junior, of course.

[freebeard]

I'm starting a list of people who do violence to reason... so far everyone is on it.

Everyone but me and thee and I'm not so sure about thee? One minute delta, you are exonerated.

Is MetroMPG a Moderator? If so how is anyone suppose to know that?

Good question. I'd have sworn affirmed that the front page listed the mods.

[Xist]

Batman Junior, can you be more specific? I have watched three debates in three days and none of them were civil!

Those dang (members of the political party you don't like)!

[Xist]

Wait wait wait! Hold on!

1. Buy an Archie.
2. Put a sign on it promoting your business.
3. Deduct both from your taxes.
4. Post a video using the most tenuous reasoning to claim buying it for some ridiculously-low price.
5. ????
6. Profit!

[Fat Charlie]

I haven't watched a debate since I was in middle school. Sadly, I've got kids who want to watch them now. "You haven't figured it out yet?" is seen as sarcasm rather than incedulity.

So, Acrimoto, anyone?