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Old 02-18-2013, 05:32 PM   #121 (permalink)
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And I don't even have an owners manual!
I tried being useful, but I only found:

http://dl.mypdfmanuals.com/new/external_light.php

http://i.mitsubishicars.com/cmn/pdf/MiEV.pdf

http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMNA/c...t_Brochure.pdf

I wonder what would happen if I attempted to fail...

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Old 02-18-2013, 06:12 PM   #122 (permalink)
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That really sucks, Ben.
Hey, maybe you can do something nobody has done before and convert your electric car to gasoline!
There is a guy who had a collection of Citi-car's and Commuti-cars that I heard about who decided to keep the rest of his collection after someone bought one and converted it to gasoline.

I'm wondering if Ben is going to try to convert this lithium car to lead acid...
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:30 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Razor, that image in post #120 actually was useful. It's a very different thing to see a nice clean diagram of something with nothing else in the way than it is to be looking at it from 2 inches away under a car with EVERYTHING else in the way.

In that photo, the support that sticks out second farthest to the right is different from the others. It has an extra little piece right behind it. When on the actual car, that part looks like it bolts right into the rear suspension. Comparing the image and the actual helped make it into something more sensical!

So, today I dropped the battery pack! At least I didn't drop it on my foot or anything (that's for electric motorcycles...)

I was feeling pretty proud of myself for getting the pack out. I dragged it out into the driveway and cracked it open.

More Worst Case Scenario.

Full of ice, rust, water, etc, etc. etc.

Today was above freezing in the afternoon, so I was able to use my garden hose to rinse it all off. Ick. What a mess!

Anyone have experience working with individual lithium cells? There were electronics and wire harnesses inside the battery case, but all that is nasty and shot! I suppose it's possible that not all the cells are bad though. It would be fun to try to test them.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:38 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Once you get that out you might have to test individual cells using the so called lithium battery restoration method that has been floating around for years (assuming they all are 0 volts)

That really is a total bummer since lithium restoration doesn't usually turn out real well unless you have hundreds of extra cells to dest.. I mean restore.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:48 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Do you have any pictures?

I have a good amount of experience with lithium cells, I have CALB 180AH in my Civic EV.

If it was me I would remove the BMS rats nest (using gloves) and get the cells all cleared off. Then I would test each cell with a multimeter and one by one charge each cell up with a bench power supply to 3.5 volts and see if they hold a charge.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:10 PM   #126 (permalink)
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I'll have photos coming, just you wait! I think I took about 50 today!

Working on a video right now.

Bench power supply? That sounds good. I'll have to try that.



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Old 02-19-2013, 09:32 AM   #127 (permalink)
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I cracked open the battery pack last night.

You'll just have to wait for the next video to see what's inside!

Hmm, not really sure of the right emoticon for that statement...
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Glad you got the pack out

I would have thought the battery pack would be sealed... I guess not

The corrosion probably happened at an accelerated rate since the sea water probably turned the battery pack into a giant HHO chamber
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Well - you've at lot of work to do. BMS system could be damages since it's most electronics, if in luck batteries could have survived?

Did the thing come with an asselbly/disassembly manual? Ohh - not!
Could you possible source some kind of service/repair manual from a Mitsu dealer/ garage?
perhaps Citroen / Peugeot has something, as I belive the Miev are also under those labels too? ( Peugeot iOn and CitroŽn C-ZERO)
Guess it to new for Haynes etc. has put books on the marked yet?
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:27 AM   #130 (permalink)
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I e-mailed Customer Service, but have not received a response, but I really think that Ben has gone far beyond what would have been included.

A Haynes would be perfect. A quick search found two false positives.

I hate fake results. Ever load a page and not found your search words?

Do push-ups, Google!

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