07-03-2013, 10:19 AM
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I got a set that are supposed to fit the front of my truck. I think they're the wrong model since I can't figure out how they attach to my pads. I'm going to try to see if the ones I have fit on the rear.
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07-03-2013, 10:43 AM
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07-03-2013, 05:28 PM
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Raybestos did a "caliper drag torque test" which showed a 49% reduction in brake drag.
http://www.raybestos.com/wps/wcm/con...1df63649a75f53
NUCAP DRT did a similar test that showed a 79% reduction in brake drag.
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Looks promising... 
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07-03-2013, 05:56 PM
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I've been getting better mileage since installing mine. It's really hard to say what difference they've made but I'm pretty certain they haven't hindered anything. I had a few of them around and it took me like 10 minutes to put em on each side.
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07-05-2013, 05:58 PM
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You people are too analytical, just bend up a piece of wire and stick in the brakes.
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07-06-2013, 12:47 AM
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Just ordered a set of four of Raybestos clips for $7.xx that are intended for the 1998 Civic EX, supposedly. The EX did have somewhat different brake calipers, but getting my hands on them will allow me to modify and immitate if they don't specifically fit. Price was right. Will report back.
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07-06-2013, 10:49 AM
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Good idea. Bicycle spokes are made of spring steel or what they call piano wire...a heat treated higher carbon steel. I have a couple variations of this wire...it is tougher than sh*t and is hard to bend and harder to cut. But it holds it's shape after bending. Just need to not try to bend any sharp corners in it. You could also drill some small holes into the lining material near the steel backing plate for a place to insert the wires if needed.
Best to test a car for brake drag is after driving till warmed up....stop at a stop sign...move the car just slightly...take it out of gear..watch for any excessive drag as it rolls slightly to a stop?
Another test for dragging brakes is to drive maybe 25 miles or so on the highway using the brakes very little...stop the vehicle...carefully touch the rotors or drums with your finger...if you feel a burning sensation  ...your brakes are dragging...mpg going into heat. 
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I stopped at NAPA, but they didn't have them. So I just bent up a a set from two old bicycle spokes. My first impression is there is no brake drag! The car use to come to a full stop and there was always some drag after appling the brakes. Now there is not and it rolls on the slightest grade, even after braking! The brake petal doesn't go down any further than before.
Cost $0.00
The clamp keeps the pads together before assembling the caliper.
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07-08-2013, 04:56 PM
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Just ordered a set of four of Raybestos clips for $7.xx that are intended for the 1998 Civic EX, supposedly. The EX did have somewhat different brake calipers, but getting my hands on them will allow me to modify and immitate if they don't specifically fit. Price was right. Will report back.
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I used the napa brand ones on my vx (#UP 84201).
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The vx and non-abs 6th gen should both use the Akabono caliper. Worked and fit just fine. The abs has a slightly different pad at the ends (deeper notch), but might work also since that's not the acting part.
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07-08-2013, 08:00 PM
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I should have used the stainless steel spokes. I used two vice grips to bend them.
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07-16-2013, 04:12 PM
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Installed the clips. I did some low speed round-the-block testing. Maybe brake drag is reduced. I cannot tell for certain. Any improvement might be in the range of data noise? Or maybe that soft non-squealing metal on metal sandy -sound that I introduced is increasing drag. It's a very mild sound. But clearly one or two of the eight total possible contact points are in fact slightly skimming the rotors. Gotta go back in. Oh well. 
They should fit. Before installing I searched the part number on the bag " H6001." Raybestos indicates that these clips fit the "1998 Honda Civic". And Amazon lists them as fitting my DX exactly, though they oddly also highlight the EX/Si (no mention of HX).
So they should fit. The error is mine, right? Any advice welcomed...
[EDIT: on a ten mile each way half freeway trip I noticed all sounds seem to go away at higher speeds. Maybe just drowned out by road noise. But after driving a higher speeds the sounds are gone even at lower speeds. Sometimes felt like a super quiet amazing coaster on rails (no brake friction noise. Still, will fine tune.]
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