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Old 08-27-2015, 10:12 AM   #521 (permalink)
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That pop up trailer reminds me of my own camping trailer..



Towed behind my CitroŽn AX..

Like you said, no need for a big 4x4 or a pickup, towing a trailer behind a regular car is the worlds most normal thing over here in Europe.
If you were in America, you would need AT LEAST a 3/4 ton truck for that load.

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Old 08-27-2015, 10:29 AM   #522 (permalink)
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If you were in America, you would need AT LEAST a 3/4 ton truck for that load.
Because Murricans that need 2500s don't put stuff in the bed. It might scratch the paint.
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Duhmericans with crew cab pickups don't want the seat foam pounded out either so these trucks are strictly for solo commuting, except in an emergency.
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Ah what, buy neither!



Wonder what the max roof load is?
Cause if you bend a fender those support beams may bend too
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If you were in America, you would need AT LEAST a 3/4 ton truck for that load.
Obviously, to tow a tiny little braked(!) trailer with a 1400 lbs max total weight.
I mean, best course of action ofcourse would be to get a triple axle gooseneck flatbed trailer behind said truck, and load the little trailer onto that, but yeah..

Matched the max tow weight on my car perfectly btw. 700 lbs unbraked trailer or 1400 braked.
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Because Murricans that need 2500s don't put stuff in the bed. It might scratch the paint.
That might explain why many real work trucks have flatbeds, as nobody cares for how beaten out they get...

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That might explain why many real work trucks have flatbeds, as nobody cares for how beaten out they get...

I wish we could still get the Ranger. If I have to get something beefier to tow my camper, it's going to be a Duratec 5 speed ranger. Still would get high 20s I bet.

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Duhmericans with crew cab pickups don't want the seat foam pounded out either so these trucks are strictly for solo commuting, except in an emergency.
And tow mirrors ... with no hitch.
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I mean, best course of action ofcourse would be to get a triple axle gooseneck flatbed trailer behind said truck, and load the little trailer onto that, but yeah..
Heh.

All this joking about over specced rigs ignores how cheap and stupid people are. Yes, cool kids ride a one ton with a diesel to commute and sometimes they haul a bag of groceries. Getting what you want instead of what you need is silly, but it gets beautiful when what they really want is a low price. That's when they say "The 1/4 ton looks just like the 1 ton and costs half as much!" And then loads it up because "full-sized" somehow means "heavy duty."

We had an idiot buy a 1500 this spring for fifth wheeling. His camper place said "We'll install the 5th wheel, go get a truck." The 1500 cost way less than the HDs, so he bought that after asking sales if a 5th wheel could be installed. Yes, you can install one. Sales didn't lie, they gave a truthful answer to a question so wrongheaded that it was calculated to fail: a random car salesman can't be held responsible for the fact that the exact load you're thinking of pulling is too heavy for the truck you told the salesman you wanted to buy.

But he picked his truck based on what he wanted to pay for, not what he wanted to do. Letting that spec come out of your fantasy world and dictate life choices is even funnier.
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They all look the same until you see the frame. On a half ton the frame fits up under the body pretty well and you don't see very much of it. On a 1 ton the frame hangs down about 4 inches and the rear leave springs are more than twice as thick.
Then you have the whole semi float versus full floating rear axle thing.

I see all kinds of dumb 5th wheel combinations around here.
Just the other day I saw a 5 lug light duty single axle under a 5x10 foot utility deck being dragged behind a 5th wheel on a half ton.

It was nothing that couldn't be handled by a bumper pull trailer.

At that point all you are doing is wasting money so you can pull around 200 to 300 pounds of goose neck structure that you don't need. Whats the point?

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