The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[Fat Charlie]

Or they're putting their money where their mouth is. I like money managers thinking beyond the next quarterly report.

I like it when the Department of Defense is allowed to plan for national security threats. Or would you rather tell the Navy that Norfolk is fine, just fine, and there's nothing to worry about?

[Xist]

So, they only invest in zero-growth companies?

[NeilBlanchard]

Ask the people in Norfolk VA.

They have about 18" of sea level rise - with about half of that coming from tectonic plate subduction.

You know - scientific knowledge.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Xist

A UK firm managing assets of $1.2 trillion will pull its investment from companies that fail to act on climate change.

At least they are honest about their priorities so that businesses can find a different company to manage their assets.

I prefer my asset managers to focus on managing assets rather than assume the role of environmental police, just as I prefer environmental organizations to focus on the environment rather than manage my assets.

People dun lost their minds.

[sendler]

Corporate boards dedicated to maximizing short term profit (20 years is still short term compared to the deep time we should be encouraging the human race to thrive) are sowing the seeds of our destruction.. In the current free market where we pay almost nothing for the actual substance of any natural resource, only for the cost of extraction, it makes more sense to rake the oceans clean of any edible food source and then scrap the fleet and move on to some other money maker, than to reduce profits and manage the fisheries to remain sustainable for thousands or millions of years.

[Xist]

The more scientific developments, the greater the chance of finding a solution.

[All Darc]

I notice that solar cell production cost (not counting wholesalle and retailers and taxes) it's already very low to solar cells itself, even the semi flexible 21% or 22% efficience solar cells.

The problem it's the solar panel structure, the metal plates, the strong glass sheet, the supports to prace on roof, that make it pricy.

For example, in ALibaba, some sellers offer a 3,34W Sunpower solar cell (semi flexible) for just 0,5 dollar the unit, if the buyer take a very huge number.
This is just 0,15 dollars per watt. And there is also the profit of the seller (probably connected with factory).

So I don't see much more can be done in solar cell cost reduction to impact in the solar energy cost. Now they need to find better and less expensive ways to built the panels, the supports structure...

If efficience was quite higher the number of panels required would be reduced. But each time a great new cell arrive it took many years to the price get low as the old cell.

[freebeard]

The problem it's the solar panel structure, the metal plates, the strong glass sheet, the supports to prace on roof, that make it pricy.

'Place'? 'Plicy'? (sorry)

With the current paradigm the irreducible cost is the installer's labor. Solar Cities glass roofing tiles change the equation by integrating into the roofing material itself.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by sendler

Corporate boards dedicated to maximizing short term profit (20 years is still short term compared to the deep time we should be encouraging the human race to thrive) are sowing the seeds of our destruction.. In the current free market where we pay almost nothing for the actual substance of any natural resource, only for the cost of extraction, it makes more sense to rake the oceans clean of any edible food source and then scrap the fleet and move on to some other money maker, than to reduce profits and manage the fisheries to remain sustainable for thousands or millions of years.

While there certainly is a problem of short sightedness, I do not believe boards of directors are completely ignoring long term viability and profitability. That said, natural resources are heavily regulated, and have varying degrees of success at achieving long term sustainability. For instance, there are far more trees in our forests today than there were 100 years ago.

A properly regulated industry will balance the needs of consumers, the needs of the company, and the sustainability of the resource.

[oil pan 4]

I lived right next to Norfolk for 6 years, I have stood in that spot next to the uss Wisconsin.
Any time there is a coastal storm during high tide with wind from the east it floods there exactly like that. Been that way for as long as anyone can remember.

Plus if the sea level rises the navy has boats. They're the best prepared.

When I install solar panels I am getting good a very good deal on the labor.