The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[Xist]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

NOBODY should be allowed to debate AGW. If you've got evidence, present it and let it speak for itself.

Who is going to stop me?

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Humans are herd creatures. We gotta keep up with the Joneses, and the Joneses generally make poor purchasing decisions. We can hardly plan for today, let alone months and years down the road.

You have to know the right Joneses!

From the link I shared before about Scott Adams:

In a May 14 “Dilbert” strip mocking both climate and economic models, Adams unwittingly made the climate scientist look like Michael Mann, the Penn State climatologist and creator of the infamous “hockeystick” model to prove global warming. Adams told me he had never heard of or seen Mann before he drew the comic, a comment sure to offend Mann’s delicate ego. Mann is suing National Review for libel and recently compared himself to a Holocaust victim.

[oil pan 4]

Our house and cars are paid off, installed high efficiency heat pumps. I want to install solar panels but the local power company is kind of anti solar plus I would end up likely paying them more money per month to have solar, the roof pitch and direction is all wrong and I have trees that I can't cut down that would block sun light.

[sendler]

All future building code should dictate that the major roof pitch will be aligned to the solar panel ideal for any given location and buildings should be well above seal level and resilient ie reconstruction in New Orleans, Long Island, ect.

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by Xist

Who is going to stop me?

Stop you? No, but put you in the same class as flat earthers, UFO riders, and such. No point in debating with nut cases.

[freebeard]

Infinite Plane Society

What is the point of this? I think it's a honeypot for the gullible, but to what end?

sendler — alternatively, you could mandate hemispherical living spaces painted with a material that turns sunlight and the humidity in air into hydrogen gas.

Originally Posted by Xist

From the link I shared before about Scott Adams:

I must have missed that. When our President suggested covering the Wall with solar panels, I thought "I've heard that before!" Sure enough, in one of his Kaffeeklatschs, he said he made the proposal in 2016.11.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by sendler

His new show on Netflix has been pretty much en pointe even if the some may consider the feel a bit brusque. Seven episodes so far.

I watched 3 episodes of Bill Nye Saves the World last night, and found it lacking substance and humor. Bill introduced the show as for adults instead of children, but the children's show had way more science and detail.

[oil pan 4]

Watergate taught us to always follow the money and eventually you catch up to the truth.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Watergate taught us to always follow the money and eventually you catch up to the truth.

This lesson has been around much longer.

The Roman judge Lucius Cassius famously asked "Cui bono?", "for whose benefit?"

I'm sure the concept evolved shortly after the invention of lying.

[Xist]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

Stop you? No, but you in the same class as flat earthers, UFO riders, and such. No point in debating with nut cases.

I in? What does that even mean?

You call me a nut case and group me with flat earthers and UFO riders, but when did I deny today's term, AGW?

You are running out of tin foil. Let me get you some more.

Originally Posted by sendler

All future building code should dictate that the major roof pitch will be aligned to the solar panel ideal for any given location and buildings should be well above seal level and resilient ie reconstruction in New Orleans, Long Island, ect.

Why not mandate solar on every roof?

Perhaps it would make more sense to simply mandate more insulation.

[redpoint5]

Did Xist share this already? I'll just plop this here for everyone's reading enjoyment.