The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[sendler]

"A" is when all of our modern economic theories were developed which is a very warped view compared to how things always were and how they will be again.
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[freebeard]

theguardian.com:Why did climate scientists emit 30,000 tonnes of C02 this weekend?

25,000 scientists. Who was left minding the store?

Strangely enough, IIRC the last time I flew was to a software conference in New Orleans. For a company called Avant-Garde Publishing Co. Inc. (you've probably never heard of them. ), in 1985.

[redpoint5]

Air travel is often more fuel efficient than driving. 737s can get 100 passenger miles per gallon.

That said, I often wonder why people waste their time and money commuting when they can accomplish what they need from home.

I've been flying to Vegas about once per month for training over the last year. 95% of what I learned could have been done remotely, although I can see the importance of ensuring students are focused and not distracted by home things.

Efficiency will improve with time as the "sharing" economy and values continue to develop. For instance, fewer hotels will be built now that people rent under-utilized homes. Fewer cars are dedicated taxis now that any car owner can provide taxi service.

As society gets more comfortable with paying for things as a service rather than owning rarely utilized products, the need to build these products in quantity will decrease.

[Xist]

When I had mandatory on-line Army training, I skipped to the test whenever possible. If I needed to click through endless slides, I used an app to click for me.

Is meeting the required training hours more important than passing the test?

Possibly, when your Sergeant gave you the answers.

The questions were usually in a random order, though, and I read fast, so I found it easier to just read and answer the questions honestly, until I did the same training enough times to remember the questions and answers.

[sendler]

Even if this is off by a factor of 5, then what? From 2011
https://visual.ly/community/infograp...resources-last
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[redpoint5]

These graphs are always meaningless because they represent a static set of parameters. They assume a static rate of consumption, static price, static rate of new production, etc.

We saw the US produce the majority of its own fuels when the prices were super high a few years back. This is because new sources of fuel become profitable when oil hits certain prices. In other words, we will never run out of anything; demand will decrease as cost increases.

Alternative energy will be adopted as they become cheaper than fossil fuels. This will happen both from fossil fuels increasing in price, and alternative energy decreasing in price. We are already seeing places like Hawaii where renewable energy is cheaper than grid energy.

Wishing or stressing about energy won't much affect reality; that market forces will ultimately determine where our energy will come from.

Should I check this thread in 13 years to see if antimony ran out? Any wagers that antimony will be gone in 15 years?

[freebeard]

Do the projections factor in having a nickel-iron asteroid parked in Moon orbit?

Every naturally-occurring element boils off the Sun's surface constantly. And most of them are dilute admixtures in seawater.

[sendler]

Can't happen.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by sendler

Can't happen.

Not with that attitude!

All things are probable given enough time. Would be neat if I could live to see us explore the stars, but a robot is vacuuming my floors right now, so I can't complain.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by sendler

Even if this is off by a factor of 5, then what? From 2011
https://visual.ly/community/infograp...resources-last
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I remember seeing graphs like this in books copy righted in the 1970s and 80 that said we should have ran out of just everything by now.
Natural gas was supposed to have run out in the late 90s, oil should be running out right about now, all precious industrial metals gone in the 2000s. But coal should last like 300 years.
So burn coal I guess.
Oh and the polar ice caps were supposed to be long gone by 2010.