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Old 02-11-2019, 03:59 PM   #4951 (permalink)
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Need context. How much warming? Method(s) used? If landbased, how many stations used? How many stations added or deleted during the recorded period? Locations of added or deleted stations? Satellite data ? Ocean temp Satellite data was found to have had a algorithm problem. Supposedly corrected. Need a lot more info.

#2

How many people? What percentage? Has the percentage changed? How much has the population increased during the time period? What was the criteria used to determine the outcome? Has the criteria changed during the length of the study period?


#3

How many heated related deaths exactly? What is the criteria for heat related death? Has the criteria changed? Who determines heat related deaths?


#4

What is the percentage difference from previous years? What is the criteria? Has it changed over the years? Has the population increased? Who determines it heat related?

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In Arizona? The U.S.? The world? ???

By the year 2030 it is estimated that 1.2 Billion more people will be added to the face of the Earth for a total of 8.2 Billion.

250,000 as a percentage doesn’t even make a dent...


Percentages and numbers that are inter changed skew results.

Percentages and numbers mean nothing without context or methodology.


Just wanted to point it out.

(Not asking you to validate your post. We all have better things to do)








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Might be a world number.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/weath...aths/27657269/






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If the information is important enough,you'll pay better attention, be aware,and intercept it as it presents itself.
Since you're not already in possession of the information it infers a lack of interest,or failure on your part,to capture the data from your environment as it made itself available.
I'm not your boy.I'm not willing to turn on a dime and redirect my course of study predicated upon your interests.Perhaps,at my speed,over time,I would be able to flesh out data more fully.
If you're going to debate facts,you're going to have to do your own due diligence and build your own brief.
Data is always available online.
NATURE will be able to provide raw data.Research methodologies.Computer/statistical models employed. .Results.Probabilities,Conclusions,Discussion,Reco mmendations for further research.Any post-publishing corrections

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Old 02-11-2019, 04:04 PM   #4952 (permalink)
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That's going to be nothing compared to when electricity and gas infrastructure fail during a cold winter since only around 1 or 2% of people have home heating that will function with out electricity or gas.
A few million people could easily die after several days with no electricity and gas over a large area.
When that data emerges,it can be factored in, on a time-weighted basis,over a 30-year period,and we'll see how it changed the extant statistics.
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:18 PM   #4953 (permalink)
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They don't mean well. It's a power grab pure and simple.
I believe you can't fix stupid and these people have gone full retard. My time would be better spent cutting fire wood rather than try and tell them about something that they clearly can't even begin to comprehend.
Irrational,non-linear,incoherence won't win the day.
A visit to a neurophysiologist might be in order.
Perhaps the R-complex inhibition mechanism has been compromised and short-circuiting across the corpus callosum,affecting suppression of left-hemisperic dynamics.
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This is why the world finds it impossible to reduce fossil energy consumption thus far despite three decades of acknowledgement and world agreements. To do so unilaterally places your country or region at a competitive disadvantage in the free market. So in order to be fair, everyone in the world has to be all in at once according to their abilities.
So, how does the US compare to Europe in that?
Who do you think is trying harder to reduce emissions?

There is no time to waste and no use griping over those who don't pull their weight. Even if it means we have to try to save the planet alone. We rather had the US on board, but hey.
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The economic transition must involve efforts “to lower total energy use.” But capitalist markets will not be capable of facilitating the required changes — governments will need to step up, and institutions will need to actively shape markets to fit the goals of human survival.
But the problem is the institutions influence the markets already, but not to fit the goal
of human (or insect!) survival. Pesticides (looking at you Round-Up friendly GMOs) appear to be the killshot.

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DYKSTRA: That's right, Arrhenius was also involved in researching the Northern Lights, the aurora borealis, and he won the third ever Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his work on electrical conductivity. Happy 160, Svante Arrhenius!
He worked in the same field as another Nobel prize winner, Hannes Alfven.

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Hannes Olof Gösta Alfvén was a Swedish electrical engineer, plasma physicist and winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on magnetohydrodynamics. He described the class of MHD waves now known as Alfvén waves. More at Wikipedia
Alfven waves are fundamental to the Electric Universe theory.

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I recommend having that lateral intraparietal cortex looked at.
Harsh. Redneck and Oil Pan 4 don't escape either. Mind reading is one thing, but [uncredentialed] diagnosis at a distance is an entirely other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Early_socialism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase

Louisiana Purchase 1803 is prior to the Paris Commune in 1848.
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It isn't the heat that kills people. It is dengue, malaria, etc. Aggravated by the new marshes forming over partly submerged and deserted coastal areas.
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Ah, so people dying of disease is at an all time high?
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Yes, of course.
While the trend in infectious disease mortality may be slowly declining in the US and Europe, it is on the rise in Africa and Asia; mainly due to population expansion, but also by building resistance to pest control, political instability and so on.
And the changing climate.
Rising temperatures allow the spread northwards of the yellow fever mosquito and the tiger mosquito and other pests.
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But the problem is the institutions influence the markets already, but not to fit the goal
of human (or insect!) survival. Pesticides (looking at you Round-Up friendly GMOs) appear to be the killshot.



He worked in the same field as another Nobel prize winner, Hannes Alfven.



Alfven waves are fundamental to the Electric Universe theory.



Harsh. Redneck and Oil Pan 4 don't escape either. Mind reading is one thing, but [uncredentialed] diagnosis at a distance is an entirely other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Early_socialism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase

Louisiana Purchase 1803 is prior to the Paris Commune in 1848.
The pursuit of climate-related information has intersected with neuroscience at times,and many messengers have, and continue to point to developmental and structural neurological anomalies and mechanisms within the population, germane to the cognitive dissonance,often exhibited in association with observations and comments made by some.
I've been observing repeating patterns of commentary for months now,which causes me to wonder if I'm witnessing analogues to conditions reported by others.
It's been determined that critical thinking is not a given,and even though all humans have (had) the facility to acquire certain knowledge,it's no
guarantee that they'll acquire it.
I feel like I'm experiencing an intellectual cul-de-sac,when some continue to regurgitate the same arguments over and over,which belie a lack of self-critical introspection,devoid of any apparent attempt to self-diagnose fault,which Richard Feynman insisted all would-be scientists undergo.It's a failure of scientific thinking.
There's some blind faith in the supremacy of economic arguments against climate policy proposals,which presupposes superior mastery of climate science knowledge on the part of economists.
Their arguments would necessitate exhibits of supra-climate science-knowledge-based prima facie evidence.
With these certain particulars,the arguments would certainly fall in favor of economists.
Should that be the case,then the entire blame and responsibility for global climate change would fall squarely on the shoulders of economists.Knowledge of last resort.
And it would be incumbent upon the economics community to bear the cost of reparations to those who've suffered loss of life ,property,and pursuit of happiness,since 1958.
If,on inspection,economists were found lacking the certain particulars to prove their arguments,then perhaps it would be prudent to defer to the scientific community for matters concerning science-related policy.
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Hence the reason we should replace coal with nuclear.
Doing anything besides that is a waste of time and money.
There is a simple way to extract CO2, it's called plants.
Perhaps you could volunteer time and recommendations for the World Nuclear Association.

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