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That's simple - they just deny the risk.
Like man- made climate change. Don't like that? Deny.
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Climate change is the change in weather over centuries and millennia.
It bares no compairson to a 8.0 earth quake on the west coast followed by a 100 meter tsunami.
Pretending they are in the same category is almost as dumb as living below sea level when you know the sea level is rising
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07-31-2019, 11:18 PM
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Still not sure what 'solar irradiance-forcing' is.
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07-31-2019, 11:49 PM
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Them are fancy words for denier talk.
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08-01-2019, 12:59 AM
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Still not sure what 'solar irradiance-forcing' is.
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Infra-red energy absorbing CO2, methane, SF6, nitrous oxides, & feedback mechanisms, such as infra-red energy absorbing water vapor force Earth temps upwards, despite the Total Solar Irradiation being low for the last 13 years.
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08-01-2019, 01:57 AM
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Them are fancy words for denier talk.
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But that would make aerohead a denier.
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And what is happening outside of natural variability is a consequence of fossil-fuel combustion,plus the other anthropogenic forcings mankind has contributed.
It's not the Sun.It's not clouds.It's not cosmic-'ray' secondary particles.
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I'm just a messenger.Haircut now,or decapitation in the future.
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"Natural variability" includes the Sun, clouds and cosmic rays, but not to include Plasma Universe?
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08-01-2019, 03:25 AM
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Any one who doesn't believe that if we don't turn to socialism or communism to force all us working class people (not rich people) to cut our carbon emissions 50 or 60 percent in the next 12 years we face DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
If you don't think climate change is the most important problem you might be a denier.
If you don't want to surrender a good chunk of your income to fix global warming by pouring trillions of dollars into a UN black hole fund with no accountability or oversight, you might be a denier.
The simple fact that only 3 or 4% of people believe global warming, pollution, environment is the most important problem. That means almost everyone is a denier.
Theirs your 97% consensus.
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08-02-2019, 04:29 AM
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Climate change is the change in weather over centuries and millennia.
It bares no compairson to a 8.0 earth quake on the west coast followed by a 100 meter tsunami.
Pretending they are in the same category is almost as dumb as living below sea level when you know the sea level is rising
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Deny and blame or insult other people.
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08-02-2019, 04:35 AM
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Fortunately we're more than 10x as capable as people centuries ago. These are problems worth considering and solving, but there's more immediate threats that directly harm humans.
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That we're capable of creating more than 10 times as much pollution as then does not count as a solution. We're digging a hole we can't climb out of.
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08-02-2019, 11:59 AM
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Man driven climate change and dark matter will share the same fate because both are propped up by the same thing.
I would have to say people who knowingly live below sea level in a world of rising seas are the ones really in denial suffering from shared mass delusion.
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08-02-2019, 12:22 PM
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Dark Matter can't be wrong though, because that would be like saying UFOs are "wrong". A UFO is something not identifiable in the sky. Likewise, Dark Matter is unidentified evidence of extra mass. The only way for dark matter to be wrong would be if the observation of extra mass was wrong all along.
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