The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

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No one has done it yet.
Just looking to the future.

[freebeard]

The future isn't what it used to be.*
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Quoth Tim Pool:
Greta Thunberg And AOC's Climate Doomsaying Is Making Children Go Insane With "Eco-Anxiety"
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edit: Neither is BBcode. That image embed is right off the BBcode.org page

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Our forum speaks a different dialect of bbcode.

[redpoint5]

As most know, I lean towards liberty whenever there is any question if it's the right thing or not, and in the same vein I believe in the right to privacy with regard to the government. That said, the benefits of 24/7 drone surveillance over public land outweigh the privacy infringement of citizens. If we're going to treat property crimes as if it was nothing; the violation of the home, which we say is the most sacred of personal spaces, then we need near 100% conviction of these "petty" crimes. Likewise, the US border everywhere needs to be treated like home, because it is. The security of home is probably most effectively secured with drone surveillance and AI algorithms.

My roommates car was rummaged through by a crook a couple weeks ago, and then my neighbor's car was broken into a few days later after I had warned him of the recent criminal activity. If we'd have caught the cretin, they'd spend a few hours in jail and be released.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts...update-eye-sky

[freebeard]

That said, I believe the benefits of 24/7 drone surveillance over public land outweigh the privacy infringement of citizens.

Agreed, but perhaps there should be some constraint.
yro.slashdot.org..Facial Recognition Database With 3 Billion Scraped Images 'Might End Privacy as We Know It' (muckrock.com)

Long-time Slashdot reader v3rgEz writes:

For the past year, government transparency non-profits and Open the Government have been digging into how local police departments around the country use facial recognition. The New York Times reports on their latest discovery: That a Peter Thiel-backed startup Clearview has scraped Facebook, Venmo, and dozens of other social media sites to create a massive, unregulated tool for law enforcement to track where you were, who you were with, and more, all with just a photo.

Read the Clearview docs yourself and file a request in your town to see if your police department is using it.

The Times describes Clearview as "the secretive company that might end privacy as we know it," with one of the company's early investors telling the newspaper that because information technology keeps getting more powerful, he's concluded that "there's never going to be privacy."

He also expresses his belief that technology can't be banned, then acknowledges "Sure, that might lead to a dystopian future or something, but you can't ban it."

Since that story has fallen off the front page, it's superceded by:
it.slashdot.org...Exploit Fully Breaks SHA-1, Lowers the Attack Bar (threatpost.com) *

https://developers.slashdot.org...Slate Announces List of The 30 Most Evil Tech Companies (slate.com)

Slate's article includes its comprehensive list of the 30 most dangerous tech companies. But here's the top 10:

Amazon
Facebook
Alphabet
Palantir Technologies
Uber
Apple
Microsoft
Twitter
ByteDance
Exxon Mobil

There's also lots of familiar names higher up on the list, including both 8chan (#20) and Cloudflare (#21). 23andMe came in at #18, while Huawei was #11. Netflix does not appear anywhere on the list, but Disney ranks #15.

And Oracle was #19. "It takes a lot to make me feel like Google is being victimized by a bully," wrote Cory Doctorow, "but Oracle managed it."

Why they would call 8-kun 8chan, IDK. Journalists.

it.slashdot.org... Telnet Passwords Leaked For More Than 500,000 Servers, Routers, and IoT Devices (zdnet.com) *

*The technical term is 'pants around the ankles'.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Agreed, but perhaps there should be some constraint.
yro.slashdot.org..Facial Recognition Database With 3 Billion Scraped Images 'Might End Privacy as We Know It' (muckrock.com)


Since that story has fallen off the front page, it's superceded by:
it.slashdot.org...Exploit Fully Breaks SHA-1, Lowers the Attack Bar (threatpost.com) *

https://developers.slashdot.org...Slate Announces List of The 30 Most Evil Tech Companies (slate.com)

Why they would call 8-kun 8chan, IDK. Journalists.

it.slashdot.org... Telnet Passwords Leaked For More Than 500,000 Servers, Routers, and IoT Devices (zdnet.com) *

*The technical term is 'pants around the ankles'.

As a Millennial, my youth was spent trading privacy for convenience and entertainment. So far that hasn't come back to bite me, and perhaps I have a false sense that openness is worth the risk. That said, our safety from the government isn't in their ignorance, but in citizens setting boundaries on authority (your comment about constraining government).

I had a 23andme kit that I sat on for a year because I was very uneasy about the potential for misuse. Who knows what genes could be found that are correlated with this or that behavior. The government would be very tempted to utilize that knowledge to take preemptive measures. The other thing I have a problem with is paying to give my data to someone. It's of such value that they should be paying me for it (that's what I thought of the SAT, so I didn't take it). The government already has my DNA though, so that's a moot point for me particularly, and I'm for the advancement of science, even if that comes about as profit for a business.

My safety does not primarily come about by my ability to retain secrets; it mostly is secured by a society and government that does not abide in evil.

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By the time the last of the millennials were born I already had a job, driver's license, car, "assault rifle", but I couldn't purchase ammo for my self.
So I find it hard to relate to some of the whining chicken poop millennials and genz.

[freebeard]

That said, our safety from the government isn't in their ignorance...

Well, it certainly doesn't help. "The President had every opportunity to prove his innocence." You and I can see the flaw in that, why can't congresscritters?

My safety does not primarily come about by my ability to retain secrets; it mostly is secured by a society and government that does not abide in evil.

Yikes! That's pretty much touch-and-go until we get one more honest election.

[redpoint5]

I'm on the older end of Millennials. I remember car trips without electronic entertainment and the internet wasn't a thing.

The thing is, society is only as tough as it needs to be. As technology improves standards of living and ease of labor, and as war decreases, the necessity of resilience to adversity reduces.

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An oldie but a goodie.
Abrupt climate change 11,000 to 55,000 years ago, wild swings in climate took 200 years to unfold.

Esplain again how man is the only driving possible driving force behind rapid climate change?

https://uanews.arizona.edu/story/cav...during-ice-age