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Old 01-21-2020, 02:19 PM   #8221 (permalink)
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Not sure if the analogy with cancer it's appropriated. Hundred things causes cancer, but the most relevant, the far more relevant, are smoking, second hand smoking, hard drinking, sedentarism and obesity, bad food (sugar/fat mostly) and genetics. There are other but the risk increasing it's high in the aforementioned ones.

To found what creates global warming it's important to know, since in case is something we can reduce. You can't cure a lung cancer in a patient just by making hin stop smoking, for example, since this works more from prevencion. But you may be able to reduce global warming by making world population burn less fossil fuels.

For me it would be too much of coincidence that global warming started righ after industrial revolution get high power, and speed up with it as it growed more.
Probably increasing CO2 concentration is the biggest factor accelerating global warming, and that accelerated rate of CO2 concentration is probably manmade. My point is that what to do about it doesn't change regardless if it's elevated volcanic activity, or transportation. My point is that if we must reduce the CO2 concentration, or at least slow the increase, what to do is the same in both scenarios.

Like risk factors for cancer, it's foolish to say that everything must be done to avoid it, because that isn't practical. Stopping breathing will drastically reduce cancer risk, since burning energy will cease, which is responsible for DNA damaging free radicals. In the known realm of mitigating cancer risk, there exists a spectrum ranging from obviously worthwhile behavior, such as not handling highly radioactive substances without protection, to obviously worthless behavior like stopping breathing, and everything in between.

The absurdity of the climate change debate is that we mostly only get opinion from people on the "don't breathe" end of the spectrum to the "handle radioactive substances carelessly" end of the spectrum.

Like a supply/demand curve, there should exist curves for various aspects we're concerned with such as standards of living, ecology, economics, meteorology, etc. Somehow those lines must be plotted and a conversation must take place that considers all of these aspects. To say that one thing is good or bad without regard for how it impacts the other values is ignorance at best, and corruption at worst.

A myopic study doesn't account for the whole, just as describing an elephants tail doesn't sufficiently describe an elephant in a meaningful way.

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Old 01-22-2020, 06:44 AM   #8222 (permalink)
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The U.S.A. to join one trillion tree initiative to combat rising CO2 levels.




Planting 1.2 trillion trees could neutralize CO2 emissions, says ecologist

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At the conference, Crowther declared that there is enough room to plant another 1.2 trillion trees on Earth. He claimed that if humans take advantage of that space and actually plant 1.2 trillion trees, we could cancel out the last 10 years of CO2 emissions. Basically, he is proposing a reforestation of planet Earth.

“There’s 400 gigatons now, in the 3 trillion trees, and if you were to scale that up by another trillion trees that’s in the order of hundreds of gigatons captured from the atmosphere – at least 10 years of anthropogenic emissions completely wiped out,” Crowther said, as The Independent reported. He also claimed that trees are “our most powerful weapon in the fight against climate change,” adding that if we really planted 1.2 trillion trees, it would have an even bigger impact on the environment than things like switching to clean energy and vegetarian diets,

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The U.S.A. to join one trillion tree initiative to combat rising CO2 levels.




Planting 1.2 trillion trees could neutralize CO2 emissions, says ecologist

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Okay,I need some help with the arithmetic.
We're presently burning the equivalent of every tree on Earth,times 15X,every year.However,if we plant enough trees to reforest Earth (once),and continuing with a 15-X global forest fire every year,one forest will be sufficient to absorb the carbon of fifteen forests? Is this the new,new math?
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In jurisdictions where it isn't verboten, hemp can save the planet.
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That's is easy to debunk.
Aus meteorology society started recording temperature records in 1910. How many of those temperature stations are now in the middle of a huge city that was only an insignificant town 100 years ago?

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Those are some real creationists level bs claims they are throwing around, like saying the earth is only 4,000 years old.
'Urban Heat Island Effect' has been factored into the temperature records climatologists have used since the 1980s.Also,remote,terrestrial locations,far away from any urban development continue to warm.Out in the middle of the oceans.Tops of mountains.On the sea floor,under ice shelves.
PS The British will have official,Australian meteorological records,from the initial time of colonialism.Along with ship's records of air,water temperatures,and ocean currents.As well as declassified,cold war, naval,submarine records which recorded the entire water column,from operational deep depths, up to the surface.
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Restoring grasslands would be a better way to sink carbon into the soil.

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First you need soil. I'd posted a different video about Liquid Nano Clay and Morton Olesen:

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Grasslands created much of the soil we had - that is what it does.
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Rainforests are notorious for poor soil. That's why biochar was used (in the Amazon) for row crops. The rest was a big, mixed orchard.
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So, each person on Earth need to plant 172 treas.

Sounds much.

And this is not the only problem. You need to keep predator (H.Sapiens) away from these new treas.

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