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Old 02-27-2020, 03:42 PM   #8551 (permalink)
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This is a total distortion of what science was indicating. We did have cooler than expected temperatures - and it was because we had bad particulate and smog pollution. Ironically, when we got cleaner cars, this "shading" largely went away, and the expected warming resumed.

You need to look at the total picture, and stop making a fool of yourself. Basing your claims on falsehoods prevents you from having credibility, on this.
It starting to look like current man made climate change is a total distortion. Any temperature chart that shows temperature back a 100 years shows warming through the 1960s and 1970s. How did they figure it was cooling for 30 years? Did they just make that up?

You're the pot I'm the kettel.
They seemed just as convinced of cooling then as warming now. I really think you don't like it when people point out the epic climate fails of the past and show the uncanny resemblance to what they say about warming now.

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Past results do not guarantee future performance.

Do people preferring a Giant Meteor to losing the next election constitute a quantum butterfly effect?
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We are talking about the same people, on the same subject matter pushing the a narrative that sounds just like the past epic fails.
History repeating is the most logical outcome.
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Old 02-28-2020, 02:43 PM   #8554 (permalink)
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I walked up to the Oosterscheldekering today.

(dam on the right on the horizon. Could have taken a picture closer up but the sheep would not move)

This is a dam with movable doors protecting the Oosterschelde estuary and the lands adjacent to it from high water while maintaining a saline marine environment, protecting wildlife (especially the oyster banks).
It close whenever water levels exceed 3 meter above ANP (average Dutch sealevel), which was supposed to happen about once every 5-10 years (based on water level statistics up to its construction).

It became functional on October 4th, 1986. It has been closed for high water 27 times since, the last time earlier this month... that is about 5 times as often as anticipated.
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Gates to control nature, and unusually pleasant weather. Life's good.
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Gates not to control but rather allow nature to run its course, except for exceptional high water that threatens a killer flood.

It would have been much cheaper and easier to just close the sea arm off with a dike. We chose not to. It is hard, but you'd understand. After all, why does Rice play Texas?
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Well, it would be much cheaper and easier if most of us didn't make it through birth and the few moments afterwards, and those of us that did lived 30 years and died, just as nature intended. Our nature is to reject nature's plans and bend it to our advantage and purposes.

We choose the difficult because the easy is uninteresting and tragic.
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I watched this a while back and I was very impressed:



Compare their passively self-flushing canals with their neighbor, Dubai, that is making a branching peninsula with land-fill that will be a dirt trap.
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Ice in the Himalayas definitely not a half million years old.
It appears to only be as old as the last ice age at most.

CMIP6 models show almost no difference in warming from from CO2 at 220ppm and 1,600ppm scenarios.
Still think we should trust and not questions the computer climate models?
Me too.
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