The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP

[redpoint5]

Scott was using that persuasion method to good effect yesterday. Start from a point everyone agrees, and keep moving along the line of reasoning until it bumps up against something people might disagree.

Funny how people can get bent out of shape just because someone else doesn't have the exact same opinion on if vaccines "work", for instance.

[aerohead]

The last time there was this much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere the oceans were 100-feet higher.

[redneck]

Originally Posted by aerohead

The last time there was this much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere the oceans were 100-feet higher.

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Then why aren’t they now...???




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[aerohead]

As quickly as climate change is accelerating, and glaciers melting, glaciers are still glaciers, and move at a glacial pace.
* 500 glaciers in the Swiss Alps have already vanished.
* Iceberg B-9
* Larsen-B
* Prince Gustav Ice Shelf
* Larsen Inlet Ice Shelf
* Larsen-A
* Larsen-C
* Eastern Larsen Ice Shelf
* Ocean thermal expansion
* Ocean acidification
* Ocean desalination
* Algal blooms
* Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning ( API ) Domoic acid neurotoxin
* Chacaltaya Mountain Glacier, Andes Mountains, Bolivia 'gone', village abandonments, refugees.
* Mount Kilimanjaro glaciers nearly gone.
* Ice melt lake rupture catastrophic flooding
* Greenland = 7-meters sea level rise. As of 2014, they were losing 269-billion ton of ice/year.
My notes are still scattered. My reporting is inefficient.
It's bad out there though.

[redneck]

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Lol...

More bloviating...

Just admit you exaggerate...





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[freebeard]

Originally Posted by aerohead

The last time there was this much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere the oceans were 100-feet higher.

When was that? Before or after Doggerland.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

As quickly as climate change is accelerating, and glaciers melting, glaciers are still glaciers, and move at a glacial pace.
* 500 glaciers in the Swiss Alps have already vanished.
* Iceberg B-9
* Larsen-B
* Prince Gustav Ice Shelf
* Larsen Inlet Ice Shelf
* Larsen-A
* Larsen-C
* Eastern Larsen Ice Shelf
* Ocean thermal expansion
* Ocean acidification
* Ocean desalination
* Algal blooms
* Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning ( API ) Domoic acid neurotoxin
* Chacaltaya Mountain Glacier, Andes Mountains, Bolivia 'gone', village abandonments, refugees.
* Mount Kilimanjaro glaciers nearly gone.
* Ice melt lake rupture catastrophic flooding
* Greenland = 7-meters sea level rise. As of 2014, they were losing 269-billion ton of ice/year.
My notes are still scattered. My reporting is inefficient.
It's bad out there though.

Weather.

[freebeard]

My notes are still scattered unsorted. My reporting is inefficient.

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[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

When was that? Before or after Doggerland.

* the last time Earth had 400ppmv carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was during the Eemian Period, 120,000 years ago.
* Earth's global average near-surface temperature was 61.4 F.
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Taking the Milankovich orbital forcing cycles into account, Earth was not the same as today. And 400ppmv will do things today, that would not have happened 120,000 years ago.
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120,000 years ago, Earth's atmosphere wasn't full of coal-fired power plant sulfate aerosols, causing global cooling, as today.
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120,000 years ago, there were no:
Chloroflourocarbons
Hydroflourocarbons
Hydrochloroflourocarbons
Anthropogenic methane
Nitrous Oxide
Nitrogen Oxides
Nonmethane Volatile Organic Compounds ( NMVOCs)
Perflourocarbons
or Sulfur hexaflouride ( SF6 )
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120,000 years ago, there were no bunker-oil-fired cargo ships or luxury liners spewing black carbon onto sea-ice, ice-shelves, or glaciers.
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120,000 years ago, the Permafrost wasn't releasing a potential 105,000-billion tonnes of carbon dioxide-equivalence into the atmosphere.
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* In addition to the up to 30-feet of sea-level rise we had, you can consider:
Greenland = 22.96-feet sea-level rise
W. Antarctic = 16.4-feet sea-level rise
E. Antarctic = 160.6-feet sea-level rise
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Sure! No one knows the precise timing of how soon, or not, we'll experience an Ice-free planet, but the set-up has been in play for over 150-years.
Glaciologists are scared ----less.

[aerohead]

No. 'Scattered.'
My place is a 40-year train wreck.