The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

It's illustrative of the forces involved. Maybe a scale Earth in the picture would give an indication of it's size.

When oilpan-4 mentioned the flare, I turned the equation backwards:
From the Sun, it would be hard to see Earth.
For all the 'space' a CME could 'go' to, actually striking Earth, from a distance of 1-Astronomical Unit would almost constitute a miracle.
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The Sun has a lot of 'latitude' and longitude', and a flare could emerge from any local on the Sun's surface.
'Facing' Earth.
'Facing away' from Earth.
'Facing a billion random directions'.
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The Sun is 'spinning.'
Things leaving the Sun experience the Coriolis Effect.
Things that have 'charge' would be affected by the Sun's magnetic field, the Interplanetary Magnetic Field, and the Galactic Magnetic Field, which all change with time.
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I believe that Oilpan-4 has got his work cut out for himself, explaining how an Earth intercept with a flare could be calculated.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

No infringement on rights for false promise of safety.
Rights do not come from pieces of paper or government.

A study of US History reveals episodes when American citizen's rights were suspended when they posed a clear and present danger to society.
It's a legal precedent, in a rule-of-law nation.
You can be arrested, jailed, and imprisoned for what you say.
During WW-I you could be shot dead on the streets of the USA and Police would look the other way.
'Rights' are legal fictions.
'Rights' DO come from pieces of paper and other retrievable data sources.
'Rights' DO come from government.
Get a Black's Law Dictionary and have at it.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

I never said there was a CME and the wire is garbage. An example of English majors trying to write about science and technology. If you read the wire, well that explains a lot.

1) WIRE was given as the source of the space weather information.
2) Flares don't leave the Sun.
3) A Carrington-like event would have to be a CME.
4) WIRE doesn't know the difference.
5) I don't read the WIRE.
6) If WIRE went away I'd never miss it.
7) Some climate scientists say that the IPCC honchos don't have a full grasp of climate science. I agree.
8) Some scientists say that politicians don't have a full grasp of climate science. I agree.
9) Some climate scientists say that journalists don't have a full grasp of climate science. I agree.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

The biggest thing it does is remind us that the standard model is wrong.

Which one? There are probably hundreds.

[aerohead]

Shared by oil pan 4 at # 771 ( permalink )

[freebeard]

I believe that Oilpan-4 has got his work cut out for himself, explaining how an Earth intercept with a flare could be calculated.

Spaceweather 102: NASA's ENLIL Spiral - The Right Panel Explained [June.25.2013]

A study of US History reveals episodes when American citizen's rights were suspended when they posed a clear and present danger to society.

We haven't always respected the Constitutional restriction on governmental overreach. Study 'false flags'. Start with January the Sixth. Then all Japanese-Americans in WWII.

Thank you for getting WIRED right.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Spaceweather 102: NASA's ENLIL Spiral - The Right Panel Explained [June.25.2013]



We haven't always respected the Constitutional restriction on governmental overreach. Study 'false flags'. Start with January the Sixth. Then all Japanese-Americans in WWII.

Thank you for getting WIRED right.

I thought it was understood that I'll never be looking at that website for the rest of my life.
If you can reduce the citation to something directly from NASA/ JPL, I'll be happy to look at that.
As to 'government overreach' you all better read a decent copy of 'The Art of War' by Sun Tsu, and 'The Prince', by Machiavelli.
You'll remain 'clueless' the rest of your lives until you do.

[freebeard]

You'll remain 'clueless' the rest of your lives until you do.

I started with P. D. Ouspensky's Tertium Organum: The Third Canon of Thought, a Key to the Enigmas of the World. Then moved on to Arthur M. Young's Reflexive Universe and The Geometry of Meaning. I don't see how you can be well grounded without those.

The explainer for the ENLIL Spiral was for the lurkers.

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov › products › wsa-enlil-solar-wind-prediction
WSA-Enlil is a large-scale, physics-based prediction model of the heliosphere, used by the Space Weather Forecast Office to provide 1-4 day advance warning of solar wind structures and Earth-directed coronal mass ejections (CMEs) that cause geomagnetic storms.. Solar disturbances have long been known to disrupt communications, wreak havoc with geomagnetic systems, and to pose dangers for ...

Enlil - Nasa
https://ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov › models › modelinfo.php?model=ENLIL
ENLIL is a time-dependent 3D MHD model of the heliosphere. It solves equations for plasma mass, momentum and energy density, and magnetic field, using a Flux-Corrected-Transport (FCT) algorithm. Its inner radial boundary is located beyond the sonic point, typically at 21.5 or 30 solar radii.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I started with P. D. Ouspensky's Tertium Organum: The Third Canon of Thought, a Key to the Enigmas of the World. Then moved on to Arthur M. Young's Reflexive Universe and The Geometry of Meaning. I don't see how you can be well grounded without those.

The explainer for the ENLIL Spiral was for the lurkers.

I reject your premise. You're arguing from ignorance.
For 'Rights' and 'Government' the two I listed is essential reading.
And if your two authors are well read, then they've read the two books as well.
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I just shared a NASA link about their capability to predict space weather intercepting Earth's orbit.

[oil pan 4]

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/mo...t-problem.aspx
Precent of people who think global warming is out biggest problem:
2%
For all of 2022 so far. It's dead. We win by default.