Echo-Troll Modding Thread (2005 Toyota Echo)

[EchoBallin]

I dont have a pic of the glasspack on my computer, but I'll get one tomorrow, maybe. It's muuuuch smaller than the massive stock one.
And the 56lbs off the driveline is solely from wheels. My current wheels are steel rims with 185mm wide tires. The rims appeared to be alloys until I weighed them..each rim and tire weigh 39lbs. So, I will be switching to the Honda VX rims (using spacers up front to fit the brake), to end with an average wheel weight of 25lbs.

[DIMS]

Originally Posted by EchoBallin

I dont have a pic of the glasspack on my computer, but I'll get one tomorrow, maybe. It's muuuuch smaller than the massive stock one.
And the 56lbs off the driveline is solely from wheels. My current wheels are steel rims with 185mm wide tires. The rims appeared to be alloys until I weighed them..each rim and tire weigh 39lbs. So, I will be switching to the Honda VX rims (using spacers up front to fit the brake), to end with an average wheel weight of 25lbs.

just a curious look into weights if money did not matter
Wheels only = Volk CE28N Forged 15x5.5 7.7lbs 3.49kgs
Wheels only = Civic VX Cast 13x5 9.7lbs 4.39kgs
Wheels only = Volk CE28N Forged 14x5.5 6.5lbs 2.94kgs
Wheels only = Volk TE37 Forged 13x5 7.4lbs 3.35kgs

[DIMS]

Maybe I missed something? Did you or are you going to dabble in underdrive pulleys or flywheel weight reduction?

I have not seen any data on these mods for fuel economy but it would be interesting.
& while I'm pondering on the key board...
I seem to remember as a kid when my buddies would race motor cycles if their engine needed a rebuild they would send their crank in to get lighted & knife-eged to reduce oil friction . i wonder if this would affect fuel economy in a good way?

[echo-francis]

I will install a lightweight flywheel in 3-4 month and a alumunium not under drive cs pulley.
my idea about weight reduction is that it can only be good. but for % fe increase I dont know

[Daox]

Why not go with an underdrive pulley while you're at it?

[echo-francis]

because most of the time there is no belt on my pulley and in the case I reinstall my belt its only for the alt and I allways p&g so I need all the power from my alt

[echo-francis]

update on my water circulation when I use my block heater project.
after 3 hours the coolent temp is about 4-5c less but the car feel more warmed up and the temp does not drop when I start the car plus the temp rise more quickly

[EchoBallin]

Here is a picture of my glasspack. I threw it on there myself (as you can see) lol. I just welded the glasspack to the piece that can be unbolted, and bolted it right up. I used a redneck type hanger that gives the exhaust the ability to sway and bounce if it needs to. Easy 7 lb weight reduction, and it sounds nice

[DIMS]

Originally Posted by EchoBallin

Here is a picture of my glasspack. I threw it on there myself (as you can see) lol. I just welded the glasspack to the piece that can be unbolted, and bolted it right up. I used a redneck type hanger that gives the exhaust the ability to sway and bounce if it needs to. Easy 7 lb weight reduction, and it sounds nice

Any audio clips? I have never heard a 4banger with a glass pack

[EchoBallin]

haha, nope. It sounds better than a typical "fart can" style muffler. These echos have a resonator and a muffler stock, so my setup has the stock resonator and the glasspack. Nice deep tone with no cracking or rasp