10-08-2015, 02:13 PM
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This seems a bit extreme: Volkswagen scandal: German police raid HQ - Oct. 8, 2015
Apparently, CNN has a video play automatically with every article, but apparently the police were sent in to secure evidence.
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10-08-2015, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nimblemotors
So much for 'clean diesel' .
They DO in fact regulate total emissions with a mandated average MPG of all cars sold or something along those lines.
All the pig diesels must be offset by clean cars.
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Diesel has never been clean, just like coal and gasoline. That's the reason I drive on renewable fuel - it may pollute as much as any other car, but at least it is coming closer to carbon neutral.
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10-08-2015, 03:13 PM
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I thought that selective catalyst reduction (SCR) using urea reduced NOx to N2, water,soot and plant food reducing NOx by 90% as after treatment. Anything bigger than a Jetta had to have that after a certain date and now the Jettas have it too, right?
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Much preferable to EGR. Direct exhaust treatment allows the thermal efficiency of the diesel engine to get better fuel mileage, instead of clogging the intake and reducing combustion temperature.
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10-08-2015, 04:42 PM
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The real question is that if officials and testers have been aware of VWs "fraud" since 2010, why did they all of a sudden change views and decide to push this issue harder?
I actually remember reading about this issue years ago and having an argument over how it wasn't really an issue and now it appears VW t'd off enough of the wrong people for action to occur.
All seems odd to me.
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follow the money.
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10-08-2015, 05:28 PM
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That news source that always maintains a steady level of reliability, The Onion, had a take on VW:
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10-10-2015, 03:49 AM
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Per Consumer Reports (via Jalopnik):
Consumer Reports Finds How Fuel Economy And Performance Drops When VW Diesels Stop Cheating
Looks like it loses 3-4mpg when it is in the test mode that lets it cheat on emissions. Who knows how VW will "fix" this, but if it always runs in the test mode, expect a significant hit to fuel economy. |
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10-10-2015, 04:08 AM
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The real question is that if officials and testers have been aware of VWs "fraud" since 2010, why did they all of a sudden change views and decide to push this issue harder?
All seems odd to me.
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Its an election year.
Most of this will unfold with in the next year.
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10-10-2015, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by freebeard
RedDevil -- I've always respected The Onion (long nightmare), but this is unacceptable.
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Oh, the cartoon is funny because it is way over the top. Tongue in cheek - and a fat camel tongue at that.
And obviously this is a common problem, not limited to VW - I would not be amazed if in the end it turns out that VW is one of the companies that manipulates the least. They just had bad luck. Makes me think of the time when all the boys in school did break a certain rule, and I (a reluctant participant) was the only one that got busted for it.
But it wasn't the Onions finest work.
Maybe this is:
Evolutionists Flock To Darwin-Shaped Wall Stain - The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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10-10-2015, 11:31 PM
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Didn't say it wasn't funny. 
My last edit was after your post. I went back and added my candidate best story: Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over'. That went up immediately after his first election. Did you look at the Road&Track article?
Old Tele man -- Could you restate that as a car analogy?
http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2015/10/wow-thats-over-top.html
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