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Old 09-10-2019, 10:01 AM   #21 (permalink)
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It also looks like some of that low cost is betting on a unlimited supply of really cheap used EV batteries which doesn't exist now.
Not sure if that $ total took into account adding multi thousand amp 480v to all the bus depos or rebuilding them next to sub stations to make the busses maybe worth something as grid storage.

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Old 09-12-2019, 12:20 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think it's worth doing just for the lessened brain damage to the little proto-people.
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Old 09-12-2019, 05:31 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Just roll them out slowly. A few busses that can use existing electrical for the shortest, slowest most stop and go routes. See how those do, change as needed, get more busses, upgrade electrical, add more busses.
Because they said in the video when busses are stopped thats where kids get fumed the most. So start there.
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Makes sense to me; rather than replacing working buses, just buy EV when new purchases are required. BTW, they should be purpose built to be EV, not retrofits.
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Old 09-12-2019, 08:41 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Busses designed to be electric from the get go would be a better product.
One thing they didn't address was heat. An electric heater murders range. My leaf uses resistance heating and it kills the range when it's cold.
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Just wait for the $2,000,000 Tesla schoolbus, announced for 2025, but released in 2030.

My passengers in the Phoenix area were highly intolerant of me not running the heater. I wore a jacket to inspect, took it off, and drove in a t-shirt and shorts with my window open.
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I don't think I've ever complained, as an adult, about my ride as a passenger. Can't complain about a free ride. I bite my tongue when the driver is the type constantly switching between mashing the throttle, and tapping the brakes.
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Seems among the wisest ways to spend VW settlement money to me. They could have put in a few chargers or something, but I don't think that's the responsibility of government.

Cleary the bus is converted from a regular body though, as there's no reason to have a huge engine bay in front. Would be better to have a flat nose (for visibility) and no mirrors. Would be neat if follow up stories were offered once these have been in service for a while.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:37 AM   #30 (permalink)
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60kw bidirectional isn't squat in grid scale.
Then you get more than a few of them the buildings electrical service is maxed out.
Get about 10 or more and the local grid is maxed out.
But if all they do is build a vehicle to grid protocol then that is a step.

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