A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement

[Xist]

Got a letter in the mail
Go to war or go to jail

This is part of a cadence we used to call in the Army. Soldiers told me they joined because a judge gave them those two options. Our Drill Sergeants repeatedly told us that we got beer, cigarettes, and whatever else out of our system, please please oh please do not start back up when you get home, but it seemed like everyone did.

The most difficult part of Basic was other Soldiers, but still, we changed, although it seemed like everyone regressed as soon as they had the option. They still had attitude when we graduated, but I could not imagine any of them doing anything like this: Soldier flagrantly avoids flag salute, sets off outrage

When do the forums show the page title when you share links and when does it just show an UR...L?

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by All Darc

Well, you can start with the worst people, criminals, dangerous ones, rapiest, child abusers (mothers and fathers).

Believe me, even with free contraceptives most crap people keap making kids. Implants require maintenance.

I can't say we can start with those people. I might have been one of those people since I went to prison. Perhaps I can agree with sexual predators, but the law is imperfect, and innocent people are sometimes convicted based only on accusation.

IUD has no maintenance for 12 years. It's quick, cheap, and reversible. I'd be willing to subsidize the cost for women who voluntarily agree to it.

[All Darc]

Uhn, what you did wrong ?
I refered about bad people, violent. Not all people who got jail are really bad.
Since you said to be in faver of humiliation of thiefs, I presume you did something else.

Incentives are also a alternative.
I presume the government cost with crap and criminal born from criminal families, it's right. So what if the government pay let's say 2000 bucks for someone with trouble past, violent acts, get vasectomy or ligature ? Or even for such inplants. It would still save money from government, avoiding the born of generations of violent criminals.

I keep saying, the worst enemy of each country it's their own culture. That's why countries with rich natuiral resources, rich nature, space, like Brazil, it's screw-up.

[freebeard]

Well, you can start with the worst people, criminals, dangerous ones, rapiest, child abusers (mothers and fathers).
....
Sterilization got bad reputation due nazis in 40's, using castration technics instead of vasectomy and ligatures.

Eugenics. Zee Ghermans got it from Arkansas. Maybe if they had stopped with castrations, they wouldn't have forever tainted their reputation. But, no....

I've noticed that Antifa have ditch their pastiche* of the Antifaschistische Aktion flag for a National Socialist one. What might that mean?


https://conservativepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/ANTIFA_FLAG_2.jpg


*New favorite word

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by All Darc

Uhn, what you did wrong ?
I refered about bad people, violent. Not all people who got jail are really bad.
Since you said to be in faver of humiliation of thiefs, I presume you did something else.

In high school, I aided and abetted (helped) friends who blew up some portable toilets by allowing them to store the materials on my parent's property. In US law, simply having knowledge of a crime and not reporting it is considered aiding, and carries the full penalty as committing the crime. Humiliation is an appropriate way to punish most crimes, including my own.

Incentives are also a alternative.
I presume the government cost with crap and criminal born from criminal families, it's right. So what if the government pay let's say 2000 bucks for someone with trouble past, violent acts, get vasectomy or ligature ? Or even for such inplants. It would still save money from government, avoiding the born of generations of violent criminals.

I keep saying, the worst enemy of each country it's their own culture. That's why countries with rich natuiral resources, rich nature, space, like Brazil, it's screw-up.

Financial incentive makes sense to me. The far left would argue that the poor are "forced by circumstance" to agree to such a procedure, so it would probably never pass.

The worst enemy is always within. First within ourselves, then within our families, and so on and so forth.

Unfortunately the average person has only average sophistication of thought. That means complex problems are usually oversimplified, and the solutions to those oversimplified problems are oversimplified themselves. We identify a complex issue as a problem with "crime" and propose the solution to be mandatory sentencing. Just get tough on crime, that's all you have to do.

[All Darc]

How old were you ?
Jail (real prison? ) for help guys who blew up toilets ?
I bet it (sentence) wouldn't happen if was Lindsay Lohan or Winnona Wider or Robert Downey Jr exploding things, all in their teens.
If I was a judge I would had put your friends to work in fixes equivalent to 10 times the damege they did, and you to work in fixes up to 3 times the damage you help they made.

IQ will propably drop.
We have today the most stupid people proportionaly having much more kids than intelligent people. Not just in terms of intelligence but also in terms of rightest too.
So, in terms of genetic, it's a problem. Also in terms of fetus development, today we have women using drugs while pregnant, not just tobacco and alcohol, but pot, heroin, cocain, and problems like anorexy. This will reduce oxygen and nutrients to fetus brain while in development, and increase the toxins levels. Also many babies will born with more stress, fue drug private after born, and stress also reduce devepment of intelligence. This plus the stress of problematic families, poor care, poor interactive stimulis, lack o such things that also help develop inteligence in early years of life.
Poor diet, fast food (yes-crap people give fast food to babies) reduce nutrients to brain in early years compromissing brain maturing. Health care about diseases, like vermin/parasites, also can be a problem in nutrion and so a problem for brain.

But in the end, all the crap people who had horrible care with babies since pregnancy and early years, will demand the government to make them and their kids equal to people's who had good parents, and will demand things without never blame themselves. And they still will demant the right to use heavy drugs, be a screw, all the factors that lead to their own problematic beings.
And they will keep having music, videoclips, glorifying these life style.

See the problem ?
Failed culture... failed values... Not just in poor classes, but also some middle class and even some high classes too (rising). Money pay doctors and therapies, to reduce some damage in the last two classes.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by All Darc

How old were you ?
Jail (real prison? ) for help guys who blew up toilets ?

Failed culture... failed values... Not just in poor classes, but also some middle class and even some high classes too (rising). Money pay doctors and therapies, to reduce some damage in the last two classes.

I was 18 in high school. Sentenced when 19, and spent my 20th birthday in prison. 1 person was like me and refused to divulge the names of the other people involved, and we got identical sentences (13 months in prison). The other 2 people made a deal with the state attorney and received a small fine as their punishment.

We have many problems to overcome down the road. Genetically there is little survival of the fittest at work, and therefore a softening of genetic traits. I'm not advocating for eugenics, but if nature is denied her process for too long, she will take revenge down the road. My guess is we will need to implement genetic selection, but there is a slippery road ahead to navigate.

The movie GATTACA comes to mind.

[freebeard]

IQ will propably drop.
We have today [Idiocracy]....
See the problem ?
Failed culture... failed values... Not just in poor classes, but also some middle class and even some high classes too (rising). Money pay doctors and therapies, to reduce some damage in the last two classes.

Quoting Gibson: "The future is here, it's just not evenly distributed".

You look around and see the situation you describe. Then you come to Internet and find a sympathetic ear. Which is more global?

Every time a 'leftist' finds the 'right' are not monsters, they are ostracized (See Lindsay Shepard, Candace Owens and others). Over time the collectivists will wither away like the Marxist state. Have you noticed all the CEOs resigning and airplane crashes? It looks (to me) like the deep state is being rolled up.

[All Darc]

On Brazil Redpoint5 would needed to had exploded the entire school to get this sentence. And if was rich a lawyer would say he was bipolar or depressed, and get hin just comunitary service.

The bad side of some eugenic was ignorance, about genes and the relation itself, and the dictatorship over race. Nazism is the main example, since it just used it in forcefull way against even innocent people, just to push blue eyes and blonde hair. They have some fewconcept of diseases, but also a lot of ignorance. There were evil and kiled not only jews (innocents) but also their own cronic sick children and elders.
The german doctors introduced the idea, and the nazi leaders liked and decided to use against jews too.

Racists ignores that there are inteligent and dumb people in all races (ethinic groups). Many racists are dumb, and there are black persons more inteligent.
There are some polemic studies about average inteligence differences between ethginic groups, and these studies (not sure if very trustable) tends to praise asian people as the bests.
What if asian would call whites as inferior race?

Let's supose a people culture had eugenics in their past, like a sexist way of reward man, the most strong and inteligent, by alowing them to have the healthier women of the vilage. This would be a old but a way of eugenics. Not moraly correct, if we think in the women used as reward. But it would had increased the health resistance and average inteligence.

But a wise society, with or without genetic enginering , if understoud about heritage of genes and diseases, could create a way to increase the health and intelectual power of human species. A start is avoiding have kids if you have genes for a disease of a certain degree for health problems. Another is adopting kids from very inteligent people.
It sounds a bit absurd, but many cultures are different and looks absurd to our own culture.

And it's not just IQ inteliegence, but behavior and self controll, that for me are also forms of inteligence somehow. If sociopaths never get kids, the incidence of the genes involved in socioath would be reduced a lot.

Interesting debate, and not freak as in Fox News :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Ybqs_ii6s

[freebeard]

I only got into it one minute, and I saw still watching someone type.

You've heard Jordan Peterson mentioned. One of the most astute* (for his age) people on Internet is Styxhexenhammer666. He addressed the situation with Venezuela. It's a combination of backgrounder and analysis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIi6yeo_YgI

*NSFW language