02-05-2018, 12:41 PM
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Early LEAFs are quicker than later 13+ models (they reduced power to claim a bit more range), but I doubt there's a 2011 or '12 on the original battery that has as many miles as a 2012 i-MiEV does today. I Plugshare-hosted an early LEAF with only 26 miles of range last week! Meanwhile, my 2012 i-MiEV with 82,000 miles on the odometer still has all 16 bars o' charge and reliably delivers the full 61 rated miles. (I've done a lot of fast-charging and turtled at least once per month after getting to know the car.) In short, Mitsu used a more heat-tolerant chemistry with lower energy density and put it in an air-conditioned box, and they only advertised 80% of the initial battery capacity, while Nissan took a shortcut to higher power and rated range. You can guess which one won in the marketplace....
I picked up another i-MiEV with 43k miles on the odometer for my mom this Christmas, got it for $5k and of course, it delivers full rated range as well.
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02-05-2018, 01:44 PM
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I'm curious as to why Nissan still does not employ any active thermal management in their gen II, when the gen I has proved to suffer premature battery wear. Given their longer history, they should be leading the technology, not lagging behind.
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02-05-2018, 02:01 PM
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I think the Leaf battery issues in 2015+ are over-exaggerated. (Knock on wood)
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02-05-2018, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ME_Andy
I think the Leaf battery issues in 2015+ are over-exaggerated. (Knock on wood)
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2015 is one of the only good years
2016+ the 30kwhr batteries suck
2013 and down all the batteries suck
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02-05-2018, 06:27 PM
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I have low expectations as it is.
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03-08-2018, 02:01 PM
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We have a lot of Ev's in the Portland OR area, the prior gen Leafs are piling up at both the big Nissan dealers, folks that are just finishing their 3 year lease are being offered the ability to buy them out at between 5500 and 6500 bucks..
I have a Honda Fit EV with a 80mile battery (at 72F) and for my 20 mile round trip commute its fine. I also only have level 2 charging, and I find it totally adequate, 2.5 hours to recharge from dead seems to work out for it being a strictly second car.. Especially since I seldom run it below 30% charge..
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04-29-2018, 02:16 PM
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My rental house is about 95% done and I have some one in it, ( it's a 2 family unit). My cash on hand is $11,000 so I can buy the car and cover anything that comes up with the house short of it catching on fire.
I think in found one and I'm trying to clarify if it had a CHAdeMO charger option. If it has the CHAdeMO I will give him the $5,700 he wants because it's worth it to me. If not I'm going to haggle over it.
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1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
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04-30-2018, 12:38 AM
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I got it. It's from up north, has 46,000 miles, a warranty replaced battery as of 2014, CHAdemMO,
What caught my eye is this one has the highest miles to numbers of bars ratio of any leaf for sale that I have seen.
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1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
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05-01-2018, 10:13 AM
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Wooo, congrats.
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05-01-2018, 10:56 AM
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