01-30-2018, 10:12 PM
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I'm thinking the current market value for one is close to around $5,000. So what I'm willing to pay and market value are not that far off from each other.
Then there is dreaded battery replacement.
But it looks like old leaf battery modules are pretty valuable. There are 48 of them in the car and it would appear they could be broken down and sold for at least $40 each.
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Never hurts to throw offers out and see what sticks. Most CL posters expect to bargain if they don't state the price is firm. The key to most any good deal, whether it's a car or a wife is to shop the market and be persistent.
I'm actually surprised the gen I Leaf prices are holding the value they are considering the impending gen II. I'd like to see a '13 down around $5k. They aren't particularly fast, the range is limited, and on top of that, many people are seeing significant battery degradation.
It's been about 3 years since I had a serious interest in buying a Leaf, which is just about the normal amount of time I wait before actually buying.
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01-31-2018, 12:30 AM
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The only thing I don't like about the 2011 is the standard 3.3kw 240v charger.
If I could find one the DC fast charger I would pay market value or a little above.
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02-04-2018, 06:29 AM
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Has anyone discovered a way to tie in external power to a leaf while underway?
I read several posts on the subject but they always ends up devolving into an argument lasting dozens of forum pages
about generators being bad for the environment, people can't afford it or that it's stupid.
I'm not going to say I disagree with any of that but I do have a 17.5kw generator trailer and that got me thinking.
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02-04-2018, 08:00 AM
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As with all EVs charging disables the drive function to prevent driving off while the charger is still attached. To charge on the go you need to get around that feature - but you must only disable it when charging internally.
Motorized trailers have been discussed as you can so pushing should work too.
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02-04-2018, 08:22 AM
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Yeah there's pusher trailers, but I do not have one.
I do have that generator trailer.
The drive disable while charging is pretty smart and it seems like a good idea. My wife immediately comes to mind.
I use a bock heater so often "unplugging before driving away" is already second nature to me.
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02-04-2018, 02:23 PM
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I would think the best way to charge while underway is to do something akin to DCFC; tapping directly in to the battery and skipping the onboard charger, which probably contains the logic that disables vehicle motion. If you tap into the battery directly, you bypass any circuitry that would disable vehicle motion.
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02-04-2018, 10:05 PM
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I was thinking the easiest way might be to introduce some charge to the brake regeneration circuit, but it doesn't look like anyone has done this.
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2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
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02-04-2018, 10:11 PM
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How many Miles per minute can your gen charge parked. 70ish mile range how many miles per minute can you recharge with your current gen set.
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02-05-2018, 09:34 AM
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My 17.5kw is only limited by the charger.
I think a CHAdeMO charger in in 10kw would be appropriate.
I'm assuming worse case so average 10kw while driving, so the little 3.3kw L2 charger on the 2011 leaf would net 1 minute of driving time per 3 minute of charge and the 10kw charger would be about a 1 for 1 charge versus drive time.
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2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
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02-05-2018, 09:57 AM
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I was thinking the easiest way might be to introduce some charge to the brake regeneration circuit, but it doesn't look like anyone has done this.
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If I'm not mistaken, this is how some Rav4 EV (original) owners did it. I'm sure I saw something about an owner who tapped into his home's high current photovoltaic array to juice up the car.
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