Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-15-2011, 05:41 PM   #161 (permalink)
T-100 Road Warrior
 
BamZipPow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,921

BZP T-100 (2010) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 24 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2011) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 23.66 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2009) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 19.01 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2012) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 25.45 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2013) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 25.79 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2014) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.18 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2015) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.85 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2016) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 17.62 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2017) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.78 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2018) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2019) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

BZP T-100 (2020) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

2012 Scion iQ - '12 Scion iQ Base
Thanks: 3,502
Thanked 1,395 Times in 968 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to BamZipPow
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by orbywan View Post
I love that round opening thingy in the grille, looks like a jet air intake. What is that? I assume you have a controllable air intake there? That whole front end looks really cool. Nice job.
From what I recall...it's from a trash can that used to be sold at Sam's Club or Costco.

__________________
Dark Aero-The world's first aerodynamic single wheel boat tail!

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 07-15-2011, 07:30 PM   #162 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,314
Thanks: 24,440
Thanked 7,386 Times in 4,783 Posts
trash can lid

Quote:
Originally Posted by orbywan View Post
I love that round opening thingy in the grille, looks like a jet air intake. What is that? I assume you have a controllable air intake there? That whole front end looks really cool. Nice job.
The 'Steve Canyon fighter jet intake' is a stainless steel waste basket lid from a unit that was once sold at Sam's Club.
I first saw them at a restaurant in Colorado Springs.Management would not part with one.
Years later I discovered one in the break room of a Dallas manufacturing company that was a client.They know I'm a nut-case and agreed to swap the lid for a new stainless unit of different design.
It is very much like a turbine inlet.The curvature prevents any vena-contrata entry loss.It's virtually ideal,aerodynamically.Why jets use 'em.
The center bullet valve is a cast-aluminum architectural outdoor floodlight housing I found at a junk dealer in west Texas.I couldn't get it for a junk price though.
In the future,the bullet will move to control air volume into the cooling system,etc.,and completely close off in the winter to conserve engine heat when shut off.Right now,it's in a fixed position.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2011, 07:49 PM   #163 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 245
Thanks: 111
Thanked 163 Times in 63 Posts
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
The 'Steve Canyon fighter jet intake' is a stainless steel waste basket lid from a unit that was once sold at Sam's Club.
I first saw them at a restaurant in Colorado Springs.Management would not part with one.
Years later I discovered one in the break room of a Dallas manufacturing company that was a client.They know I'm a nut-case and agreed to swap the lid for a new stainless unit of different design.
It is very much like a turbine inlet.The curvature prevents any vena-contrata entry loss.It's virtually ideal,aerodynamically.Why jets use 'em.
The center bullet valve is a cast-aluminum architectural outdoor floodlight housing I found at a junk dealer in west Texas.I couldn't get it for a junk price though.
In the future,the bullet will move to control air volume into the cooling system,etc.,and completely close off in the winter to conserve engine heat when shut off.Right now,it's in a fixed position.
That's awesome Phil, I love it. I need one for my Saturn. That's a thought. Now that I've got the diesel engine on the RV cooling fabulously, if I go to the DM scrap yard and find an air inlet for an F-16 or something and graft it into the front grille and add a flow controller I'd have it licked. Seriously. It's nice to know there are others that share my mental illness. Ha! We don't need no stinking therapy, we just need spare parts!
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to orbywan For This Useful Post:
aerohead (07-16-2011)
Old 07-15-2011, 11:51 PM   #164 (permalink)
Cd
Ultimate Fail
 
Cd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Austin,Texas
Posts: 3,585
Thanks: 2,872
Thanked 1,121 Times in 679 Posts
Looking mighty sleek Phil.
Are you going to pull back the mirrors for the speed run ?
I know you tested the CRX and found no change, but I'm wondering if they would have an effect on this particular vehicle.
Also, whatever became of the hood ramp ?
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2011, 04:05 PM   #165 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,314
Thanks: 24,440
Thanked 7,386 Times in 4,783 Posts
mirrors/hood

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cd View Post
Looking mighty sleek Phil.
Are you going to pull back the mirrors for the speed run ?
I know you tested the CRX and found no change, but I'm wondering if they would have an effect on this particular vehicle.
Also, whatever became of the hood ramp ?
Cd,I will run a 'stock' configuration,as that's where my mpg numbers will be coming from.No variables that way.See what that nets me.
Then,I'll start messing around.
As to the hood blister,we were having some significant tornadic weather weeks ago and a lot of chances for big hail.All my plex parts have already been destroyed by tennis ball size hail and will have to be re-fabricated ( ouch!),so I pulled the blister to protect it until I test some more.
Without it,the hood literally caves in about a foot in front of the cowl.I should ask BamZipPow if he's ever experienced that on his.Wild!
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2011, 04:21 PM   #166 (permalink)
T-100 Road Warrior
 
BamZipPow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,921

BZP T-100 (2010) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 24 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2011) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 23.66 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2009) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 19.01 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2012) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 25.45 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2013) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 25.79 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2014) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.18 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2015) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.85 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2016) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 17.62 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2017) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.78 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2018) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2019) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

BZP T-100 (2020) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

2012 Scion iQ - '12 Scion iQ Base
Thanks: 3,502
Thanked 1,395 Times in 968 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to BamZipPow
On my 1993 T-100...the hood supports weren't connected to the skin anymore and it would flap as I was driving. I ended up shoving a piece of 1x2 wood between the supports and the hood skin and it stopped the flapping.

Snap a few piccies of the hood supports and post them up. I'd be curious on what's still attached. You could probably git some Liquid Nails construction adhesive and put dabs between the support and the hood skin...but only if you thoroughly clean both surfaces before you apply it.

With my current 1998 T-100, I don't have that problem.
__________________
Dark Aero-The world's first aerodynamic single wheel boat tail!

  Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2011, 04:58 PM   #167 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,314
Thanks: 24,440
Thanked 7,386 Times in 4,783 Posts
flap

Quote:
Originally Posted by BamZipPow View Post
On my 1993 T-100...the hood supports weren't connected to the skin anymore and it would flap as I was driving. I ended up shoving a piece of 1x2 wood between the supports and the hood skin and it stopped the flapping.

Snap a few piccies of the hood supports and post them up. I'd be curious on what's still attached. You could probably git some Liquid Nails construction adhesive and put dabs between the support and the hood skin...but only if you thoroughly clean both surfaces before you apply it.

With my current 1998 T-100, I don't have that problem.
Actually,I find the deformation quite entertaining! Witnessing 'tin-canning' first hand.
It helps me remember the forces lurking just beyond the glass.
I appreciate the confirmation.
Hope your weather's a little cooler down there.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2011, 04:07 PM   #168 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,314
Thanks: 24,440
Thanked 7,386 Times in 4,783 Posts
Project Update,maybe photos later

'been recycling metal into the gap-fillers.
I was given the late Bob Parson's sail car by his wife and I'm chopping up the steel tube truss sections to create the space-frames for the upper Viking gap-filler panel,as well as the T-100 rear,upper,inter-spanning gap-filler panel.
The Viking upper panel is 'there' and in a tack-welded condition.I've run it through the full range of motion and it's going to operate just fine.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am nearly complete with one of the side-panel super-structures.I came up with a double-wheel bogey and single roller combo which 'ride' the prismatic trailer face,forcing the outward swing articulation of these panels as the trailer comes off-center during a turn initiation,all forced by contact of the lazy-C pivot-frame face with the contact rollers on the rear face of the integrator.
What remains,is a final roller which supports the outward lower rear extremity of the frame when on-center,should the rig encounter 'jerk' from a killer pot-hole,etc..The roller will roll atop a heavy aluminum bellypan section which cantilevers forward off the lower prismatic face on each side.
All the rollers are from recycled inline skates.1-skate will do an entire side.$2.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
During near-jack-knife turning maneuvers the operating velocities should be low enough,and on level enough ground to permit survival of the lazy-C pivot-frame which carries the 'flag' side-panels.The lazy-C frame's weakness will be in torsion.So the support rollers should really help.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
The tack welds will make 'corrections' easier,should I get stupid and have to re-engineer my engineering.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
The fiberglass welding blanket has allowed me to weld 'directly' on/over the trailer.It's a nice addition to the shack.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
So far,so good! No major surprises.
I'll get more photos taken soon,and post the few that I have if Al can break free.
The 'trumpet-player' should be back from Europe soon so my 'working vacation' is nearing its end and will have to go to work soon."#%@(*&)+_@*&^%!!!!!"
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1525.JPG
Views:	147
Size:	73.6 KB
ID:	9054   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1526.JPG
Views:	130
Size:	64.3 KB
ID:	9055   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1528.JPG
Views:	127
Size:	58.5 KB
ID:	9056   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1529.JPG
Views:	133
Size:	75.5 KB
ID:	9057  

Last edited by aerohead; 07-23-2011 at 05:28 PM.. Reason: add images(1-more)
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
euromodder (07-23-2011)
Old 07-30-2011, 04:11 PM   #169 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,314
Thanks: 24,440
Thanked 7,386 Times in 4,783 Posts
Latest progress & photos

'been working out details on the mechanisms.
*I've done the 'easy' forward bellypan section for the drivers side.The upper side of the pans will double as the runways for the trailing roller supports of the side-panel frames.
*The pans will require cantilever support.I will use aluminum angle underneath which will appear as a flow fence,although fences would not be necessary.
*I moved the trailer outside to attempt better photos.
The series of images reflect the trailer going through a full jack-knife range of motion.
*The lazy-C frame,to which swing-panel frames are attached is always parallel to the integrator frame on the back of the truck.When you look at the C-frame orientation,it is mimicking the integrator.
* I've left out the 2nd degree of articulation at the C-frame as depicted in the Prius trailer thread.Tongue weight is growing steadily and I'm going to omit any feature which isn't 'mission critical' to aerodynamics.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
*The last series of shots are of the bogey and roller which travel the prismatic face of the trailer.
* When I get the pan on the passenger side I can work out the roller support.
* The passenger side pan will require a trap-door for the landing gear to rotate and fall through when the trailer is de-hitched.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
* The integrator itself will require articulated panels to deal with pitch and roll.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
*This morning I purchased the aluminum for the second forward pan and 5/8ths square tubing for the panel frames,along with some more steel pre-forms.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
* If time avails itself I will race-drill all the frames to add lightness.
*Plenty ahead of me!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1563.jpg
Views:	104
Size:	75.4 KB
ID:	9109   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1564.jpg
Views:	108
Size:	78.1 KB
ID:	9110   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1565.jpg
Views:	112
Size:	74.3 KB
ID:	9111   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1566.jpg
Views:	98
Size:	77.7 KB
ID:	9112   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1567.jpg
Views:	100
Size:	74.3 KB
ID:	9113  

Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1568.jpg
Views:	97
Size:	74.9 KB
ID:	9114   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1569.jpg
Views:	94
Size:	70.7 KB
ID:	9115   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1570.jpg
Views:	98
Size:	69.7 KB
ID:	9116   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1571.jpg
Views:	93
Size:	67.1 KB
ID:	9117   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1572.jpg
Views:	88
Size:	70.3 KB
ID:	9118  

  Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (07-30-2011), graydonengineering (08-05-2011), orbywan (07-30-2011)
Old 07-30-2011, 04:13 PM   #170 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,314
Thanks: 24,440
Thanked 7,386 Times in 4,783 Posts
two more images

here are 2-more shots of bogey/roller

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1573.jpg
Views:	102
Size:	63.1 KB
ID:	9119   Click image for larger version

Name:	HPIM1574.jpg
Views:	101
Size:	66.1 KB
ID:	9120  
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (07-30-2011)
Reply  Post New Thread




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Vibe Kammback / Boat tail trikkonceptz Aerodynamics 9 01-19-2014 10:59 AM
Tractor Trailer Boat tail trikkonceptz Aerodynamics 23 12-27-2011 07:19 PM
Trailer Hitch Boat Tail? superchow EcoModding Central 16 04-26-2010 03:35 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com