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Old 01-26-2015, 05:18 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Hello everyone, been a while since my last update.
The car has passed the 150.000 km mark. Already did 25.000 km since I bought it in April so it's going along well. With cold weather I see a expected increase in fuel consumption, how do you guys get it as low as possible with the cold weather?
The car is now at the garage of my cousin, it's leaking oil dramaticly and since last Thursday it is also leaking coolant. Probably a retired head gasket.
I'm also a bit shocked by the fuel costs. I already spent somewhere around two times my monthly income on fuel since I have the car, so that's extra motivation to save as much as possible. (And when my girlfriend can take over the 106, to look for a diesel for me :P)

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Old 02-03-2015, 03:21 AM   #52 (permalink)
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And when my girlfriend can take over the 106, to look for a diesel for me :P
What Diesel are you looking for? IDI or direct-injection?
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What Diesel are you looking for? IDI or direct-injection?
Don't know really. It should be cheap and lightweight. If it's under 950 kg, the taxes aren't that high around here.
There are a few options that I know in that weight class:
- Peugeot 106 1.5D
- Citroën Saxo 1.5D
- Citroën AX 1.5D
- Peugeot 205 1.8D
- Peugeot 206 1.4 HDi
- Renault Clio 1.5 dCi
- Some versions of the VW Polo diesel

Yeah I'm a bit biased on the French cars
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Don't know really. It should be cheap and lightweight. If it's under 950 kg, the taxes aren't that high around here.
There are a few options that I know in that weight class:
- Peugeot 106 1.5D
- Citroën Saxo 1.5D
- Citroën AX 1.5D
- Peugeot 205 1.8D
- Peugeot 206 1.4 HDi
- Renault Clio 1.5 dCi
- Some versions of the VW Polo diesel

Yeah I'm a bit biased on the French cars
The 205 seems to be good performance-wise, and has a nice handling. 106, Saxo and AX seem to be still a good base for a 3L/100km project, even with their old-school IDI setup. They also tend to be somehow more tollerant to experiences with alternative fuels (mostly biodiesel or pure plant oils) due to indirect injection. The same applies to some versions of the Polo, while others would have a direct injection which is often deemed not so suitable to the usage of veg oils as fuel, but we must not forget the Elko Multifuel engine from the '80s had direct injection and phisically resembles the 1.4TDI at some extent...

With direct injection in the 206 1.4HDi, the Clio and some versions of the Polo you could eventually also perform some experiences with home-brewed ethanol, using some orange peel oily extract as an ignition improver. BTW wasn't the 206 also available with the DW8 indirect-injection engine?
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Try to find a Citybug diesel (C1/107/Aygo), although from experience by the missus, the petrol version still is cheaper up to around 22.000km/y.
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And I've got the car back after spending more than a week at the garage of my nephew. It now has a new head gasket with a new timing belt and water pump. It was also leaking coolant out of the intake manifold so they got another one from the scrapper.
I really missed the old banger, but it's funny to see what my driving habits do with other cars. Drove the cars of my parents and sister the last two weeks.
My parents drive a 2000 Opel Astra 1.6i, I managed to do almost 4 km/L more than they do (keep in mind, I drive a lot of highway kilometers and my parents only go around town.
My sister drives an 1994 Suzuki Swift 1.0 with a 3-speed automatic. It revs like hell on the highway but got a decent 13 km/L out of it.
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With direct injection in the 206 1.4HDi, the Clio and some versions of the Polo you could eventually also perform some experiences with home-brewed ethanol, using some orange peel oily extract as an ignition improver. BTW wasn't the 206 also available with the DW8 indirect-injection engine?
Yeah the 206 is also available with the 1.9 diesel (that's the DW8 as far as I know?) Very reliable engine, it sips more fuel than the 106 diesel or the 1.4 HDi but doesn't have much trouble doing it. It is heavier than 950 kg though.

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Try to find a Citybug diesel (C1/107/Aygo), although from experience by the missus, the petrol version still is cheaper up to around 22.000km/y.
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The triplets are hard to find in diesel around here and if you find them, the prices are quite high. As you said, for most people it's cheaper to drive a petrol version with reasonable kilometer each year.
I even think that the Aygo wasn't available with a diesel engine?
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Yeah the 206 is also available with the 1.9 diesel (that's the DW8 as far as I know?) Very reliable engine, it sips more fuel than the 106 diesel or the 1.4 HDi but doesn't have much trouble doing it.
Kinda predictable that it would sip more fuel than a featherweight like the 106. Anyway, the DW8 can handle vegetable oils and some lower-grade (predictably cheaper) Diesel fuels better than the 1.4HDi, but so can the 1.5D in the 106


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I even think that the Aygo wasn't available with a diesel engine?

IIRC it was available in Diesel only until 2009 or 2010.

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